Arachnodouche
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Elephant in the room tbhMurali
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Did any of the Great bowlers of the past chuck?
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Yea, clearly no one ever talks about Murali's action. Thanks for bringing it to light.
fredfertang
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There are a couple around - one by Ian Peebles called "Straight from the Shoulder" from around 1970 and one by Bernard Whimpress from a few years ago imaginatively titled "Chuckers"
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Haha, it is funny. "Don't throw or someone might die."Alec Bedser.
It's funny, but the action for the great man's delivery where he's deliberately getting some elbow into it still looks better than a few we're forced to endure nowadays.
stumpski
International Captain
Interesting, thanks. "From Mold to Murali" would have been my choice, though.
fredfertang
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You write it mate and I'll review it
grecian
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Yep, was an absolute disgrace, why I'll never rate him amongst the best of the Windies quicks.
grecian
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It was just when he wanted an extra bit of pace, he used it a lot more towards the end of his career.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Everyone but Sarwan.
Burgey
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He knocked Boon over with a yorker in the Windies in 95 with one which wasn't a bad example iirc. I'll see if I can find it - got an old VHS tape of the series at home, hence why I've not seen it in ages.
Should also add Lee when he got a bit square on when he tired.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I believe I have the same VHS. Really should go back and watch it some time.
Also got the 1989 and 1993 Ashes lying around somewhere.
Biryani Pillow
U19 Vice-Captain
You have to remember that an arm can be 'bent' throughout the action but it can't straighten.
Ian Peebles' review of the 1958/59 Ashes was named "Four Chukkas to Australia"
Certainly from that series Meckiff and Rorke where meant to be severe chuckers (and the latter was a major 'dragger' under the old back foot no ball Law which meant he was often hurling it down from 18 yards).
Apparently at one point during the series Ray Lindwall introduced himself by saying "shake the hand of the last true bowler in Australia" (most of the States were reckoned to have doubtful bowlers) which some thought a shade rich as there had been occasional murmers about him in the past. I think Brian Statham had the very occasional issue as well.
Re Walsh: I think that now and again during a long day one would come out through tiredness but it might be one every 20 or 30 overs.
The West Indian bowler I've seen that thought was frequently very dubious was Eldine Baptiste. I've heard that Charlie Griffith's 'threw' his bouncer and yorker - and consequently these were very hard to pick up.
In recent years there have been some who, though questionable, were nowhere near as bad as "the name that cannot be mentioned" and just about every Doosra bowler I've seen (I would say all but there may be one who somehow doesn't) - James Kirtley comes to mind.
The comments on Tony Lock are correct in that when he saw himself on film (which in the 50s could take some while) he remodelled his action and still bowled rather well. His problem came from long spells of bowling in the old Gover Cricket School which believe me didn't allow much scope for a flighty spin bowler. Lock 'flattened' his action but still looked to spin the ball hard - and that caused the problem (ironically it was the 'flat' big turner "the name that cannot be mentioned" that was the most consistent 'chuck').
There have been relatively few even reasonably big names through history who clearly chucked. Lancashire had one in the 1880s called Crossland whose action was described by one fellow player as "a clear shy". A few in the 1890s/early 1900s in England, most famously Arthur Mold but there was a meeting of the (all Amatuer) County Captains where they agreed, in a very gentlemanly manner, that if three of their number complained about a bowler that bowler would not be picked again. A major Australian bowler around that time considered a 'chucker' was the left arm spinner Jack Saunders.
Ian Peebles' review of the 1958/59 Ashes was named "Four Chukkas to Australia"
Certainly from that series Meckiff and Rorke where meant to be severe chuckers (and the latter was a major 'dragger' under the old back foot no ball Law which meant he was often hurling it down from 18 yards).
Apparently at one point during the series Ray Lindwall introduced himself by saying "shake the hand of the last true bowler in Australia" (most of the States were reckoned to have doubtful bowlers) which some thought a shade rich as there had been occasional murmers about him in the past. I think Brian Statham had the very occasional issue as well.
Re Walsh: I think that now and again during a long day one would come out through tiredness but it might be one every 20 or 30 overs.
The West Indian bowler I've seen that thought was frequently very dubious was Eldine Baptiste. I've heard that Charlie Griffith's 'threw' his bouncer and yorker - and consequently these were very hard to pick up.
In recent years there have been some who, though questionable, were nowhere near as bad as "the name that cannot be mentioned" and just about every Doosra bowler I've seen (I would say all but there may be one who somehow doesn't) - James Kirtley comes to mind.
The comments on Tony Lock are correct in that when he saw himself on film (which in the 50s could take some while) he remodelled his action and still bowled rather well. His problem came from long spells of bowling in the old Gover Cricket School which believe me didn't allow much scope for a flighty spin bowler. Lock 'flattened' his action but still looked to spin the ball hard - and that caused the problem (ironically it was the 'flat' big turner "the name that cannot be mentioned" that was the most consistent 'chuck').
There have been relatively few even reasonably big names through history who clearly chucked. Lancashire had one in the 1880s called Crossland whose action was described by one fellow player as "a clear shy". A few in the 1890s/early 1900s in England, most famously Arthur Mold but there was a meeting of the (all Amatuer) County Captains where they agreed, in a very gentlemanly manner, that if three of their number complained about a bowler that bowler would not be picked again. A major Australian bowler around that time considered a 'chucker' was the left arm spinner Jack Saunders.
Debris
International 12th Man
Seem to remember Aktar having the same problem with his bouncer early in his career.
Son Of Coco
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He should've been tested to prove his innocence in my opinion!