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    Murali - Hero or Villain?

    Murali - Hero or Villain?

    As Murali prepares for one last hurrah in the forthcoming World Cup, Martin looks back at the controversy that has followed him throughout his career.
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    Ripping good read, Mr f.

    Must admit I'm still very much an agnostic when it comes to Murali's action. An often overlooked point is that, notwithstanding his deformed elbow and preternaturally flexible wrist, sometimes his action "looks" worse than on other occasions. My suspicion is that when he does try to impart a little extra "fizz" on deliveries he gets exceedingly close to the tolerance threshold.
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    Great article. For me, the issue is as simple as this: if Murali throws, so does Glenn McGrath. And He does not throw. Argument over. The luddites can crow to their hearts content.
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    Great article, Martin.
    And we still haven't walked in the glow of each other's majestic presence.


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    Fantastic article.

    Do you have any links to the findings of the 2004 study? There's an Aussie on another forum I'm on who's being a completely sore loser and insisting that Australia have won 6 World Cups, because they were "cheated" in 1992, and the 1996 win was invalid because "Murali chucks." I've tried the "McGrath was clocked at 12 degrees" argument, so far unsuccessfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Fantastic article.

    Do you have any links to the findings of the 2004 study? There's an Aussie on another forum I'm on who's being a completely sore loser and insisting that Australia have won 6 World Cups, because they were "cheated" in 1992, and the 1996 win was invalid because "Murali chucks." I've tried the "McGrath was clocked at 12 degrees" argument, so far unsuccessfully.
    How were they cheated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gvenkat View Post
    How were they cheated?
    Didn't win.
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    Great article. Sir Don's comments at the end were are amazing. Another reason, why he is the greatest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanz View Post
    Great article. Sir Don's comments at the end were are amazing. Another reason, why he is the greatest.
    This, and I liked the closing with Roebuck's comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Fantastic article.

    Do you have any links to the findings of the 2004 study? There's an Aussie on another forum I'm on who's being a completely sore loser and insisting that Australia have won 6 World Cups, because they were "cheated" in 1992, and the 1996 win was invalid because "Murali chucks." I've tried the "McGrath was clocked at 12 degrees" argument, so far unsuccessfully.
    I can't find the exact article, but here are a couple on the subject that allude to the results:
    Dubai stages summit meeting on suspect bowling actions | Cricket News | Global | ESPN Cricinfo
    Murali's redemption, and our arrogance | Cricket News | Global | ESPN Cricinfo

    Also get him to watch this:
    YouTube - Proof that Muttiah Muralitharan does not chuck

    As that second link states about the video,
    They turned as you'd expect them to, though they were a bit slower - the weight of the brace would have accounted for that. Remarkably, despite the brace, it still appeared as though he was straightening his arm, even in the slow-motion replays - it was, clearly and uncontestably in this case, an optical illusion.
    There definitely used to be an article about it which pointed out that the only bowler tested at the Champions Trophy that didn't go over the allowed degree at the time was (IIRC) Ramnaresh Sarwan and his legbreaks. Just can't seem to find it.

    Edit: Boom

    ICC study reveals that 99% of bowlers throw
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    Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    I can't find the exact article, but here are a couple on the subject that allude to the results:
    Dubai stages summit meeting on suspect bowling actions | Cricket News | Global | ESPN Cricinfo
    Murali's redemption, and our arrogance | Cricket News | Global | ESPN Cricinfo

    Also get him to watch this:
    YouTube - Proof that Muttiah Muralitharan does not chuck

    As that second link states about the video,


    There definitely used to be an article about it which pointed out that the only bowler tested at the Champions Trophy that didn't go over the allowed degree at the time was (IIRC) Ramnaresh Sarwan and his legbreaks. Just can't seem to find it.

    Edit: Boom

    ICC study reveals that 99% of bowlers throw
    Sarwan - greatest bowler of all time? should be next for Martin..


    BTW, Kumar Dharmasena was definitely not a left arm orthodox bowler.. Right Arm Offspin..
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    It's interesting to see that those comments from Bradman came when Murali was just beginning to achieve greatness as a bowler.

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    Excellent article as ever from CW's finest
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post


    BTW, Kumar Dharmasena was definitely not a left arm orthodox bowler.. Right Arm Offspin..
    I'd like to claim that was a deliberate mistake to see who was awake but sadly I can't - it just goes to show I should always check primary source material for accuracy!

    Thanks for pointing it out

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    Good read mate.

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