*Official* Netherlands vs Spain (World Cup Final)

[nightprowler10]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

If it is his girlfriend this is less exciting than I thought. I thought he planted one on an unsuspecting interviewer.

As did I. Hardly worth posting if they're dating anyway.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by GingerFurball

Arsenal can't exactly bump up their price for a player who can't get a game ahead of Busquets, Xavi or Iniesta for his country.

Can't deny that he completely changed the game though and made Spain look truly dangerous.

And TBH, I don't buy any of this nonsense that "oh, Spain didn't deserve to win as they didn't commit enough players forward, Holland should've scored etc etc". One team came out and played football.

The other? Well...



Actually looks worse the more you see it.

[roseboy64]

Originally Posted by duffer

He's better than all of them apart from Xavi.

He's a different player to all of them so hard to say he's better. Busquets is a holding midfielder in a sense. Xavi a deep playmaker. Iniesta and Fabregas are attacking mids but Fabregas is more direct.

[Spark]

Originally Posted by roseboy64

He's a different player to all of them so hard to say he's better. Busquets is a holding midfielder in a sense. Xavi a deep playmaker. Iniesta and Fabregas are attacking mids but Fabregas is more direct.

Iniesta was terrible though.

[pasag]

Originally Posted by Spark

Can't deny that he completely changed the game though and made Spain look truly dangerous.

And TBH, I don't buy any of this nonsense that "oh, Spain didn't deserve to win as they didn't commit enough players forward, Holland should've scored etc etc". One team came out and played football.

The other? Well...



Actually looks worse the more you see it.

FINISH HIM!


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[duffer]

Originally Posted by roseboy64

He's a different player to all of them so hard to say he's better. Busquets is a holding midfielder in a sense. Xavi a deep playmaker. Iniesta and Fabregas are attacking mids but Fabregas is more direct.

Um no. He's better. Apart from Xavi that is.

[Ikki]

Originally Posted by roseboy64

The actual video:

YouTube - Casillas besa a Sara Carbonero (His Girlfriend)

[Spark]

Originally Posted by pasag

FINISH HIM!


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FATALITY

[Ikki]

A friend of mine just said that the clearance that Mathijson was compelled to do only happened because Iniesta was offside. And that's a very good point. It's after that half-clearance that fell to Cesc who passed it to Iniesta that the goal was scored.

[vcs]

Originally Posted by roseboy64

He's a different player to all of them so hard to say he's better. Busquets is a holding midfielder in a sense. Xavi a deep playmaker. Iniesta and Fabregas are attacking mids but Fabregas is more direct.

Xavi is the best of the lot right now when it comes to controlling games. He's the corner-stone of Barcelona and Spain's recent success. Very much like Scholes, only better, IMO.

Iniesta is the best player when it comes to making the difference in the big, tight games (Champions League SF and F 2009, WC F 2010).

Fabregas is Xavi's natural successor, but doesn't have the luxury/ability to completely control games because he has the responsibility of making things happen in the final third as well at Arsenal, while Xavi can rely on the likes of Messi/Iniesta to do that at Barca.

Xabi Alonso is a very similar player to Pirlo, excellent deep-lying playmaker who can't quite run games like Xavi because he lacks his mobility and close-control. Very pure striker of a ball.

Busquets is your archetypal annoying DM who fouls, dives and generally gets up people's noses but every successful team needs one of those. I actually thought Barca played better with Yaya Toure in that role, he offered more going forward as well.

Spain have an embarrassment of riches in midfield, most teams would kill to have one player of that quality.

[Ikki]

Just saw a replay of the goal...actually, even that pass doesn't look offside. Close though.

[Uppercut]

Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA

Benefit of the doubt for trying to stab someone in the chest with your studs?

It's perfectly reasonable on one live viewing to think that he tries to take the ball down without realising there's a player so close by.

Arguably a red anyway, just because it's so unnecessarily reckless and dangerous, but there's definitely enough doubt to give the benefit of if Webb doesn't think so. Puyol's was even more of a straight red, imo.

[grecian]

Did my post get deleted, shame, one of my best efforts, oh and I was sober BTW.

I'll still make the point that coming into a football thread and saying the Sport is rubbish, is a little poor, and trolling really as we don't do it to other sports.

Was a terrible World Cup though, a bit like the last cricket one, can't condemn a sport that thrives in hundreds of countries at thousands of level on one tournament, no matter if it is the show-piece.

[Steulen]

Have just read through the Dutch newspapers. They are all blaming Webb for the loss. Geez, I was mildly embarassed to be Dutch last night, now I'm a full-fledged orangophobic.

[pasag]

Originally Posted by Steulen

Have just read through the Dutch newspapers. They are all blaming Webb for the loss. Geez, I was mildly embarassed to be Dutch last night, now I'm a full-fledged orangophobic.

That's made headlines over here as well (link). Thought they really embarrassed themselves last night, the way they carried on.