And TBH, I don't buy any of this nonsense that "oh, Spain didn't deserve to win as they didn't commit enough players forward, Holland should've scored etc etc". One team came out and played football.
The other? Well...
Actually looks worse the more you see it.
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A friend of mine just said that the clearance that Mathijson was compelled to do only happened because Iniesta was offside. And that's a very good point. It's after that half-clearance that fell to Cesc who passed it to Iniesta that the goal was scored.
Iniesta is the best player when it comes to making the difference in the big, tight games (Champions League SF and F 2009, WC F 2010).
Fabregas is Xavi's natural successor, but doesn't have the luxury/ability to completely control games because he has the responsibility of making things happen in the final third as well at Arsenal, while Xavi can rely on the likes of Messi/Iniesta to do that at Barca.
Xabi Alonso is a very similar player to Pirlo, excellent deep-lying playmaker who can't quite run games like Xavi because he lacks his mobility and close-control. Very pure striker of a ball.
Busquets is your archetypal annoying DM who fouls, dives and generally gets up people's noses but every successful team needs one of those. I actually thought Barca played better with Yaya Toure in that role, he offered more going forward as well.
Spain have an embarrassment of riches in midfield, most teams would kill to have one player of that quality.
Just saw a replay of the goal...actually, even that pass doesn't look offside. Close though.
Arguably a red anyway, just because it's so unnecessarily reckless and dangerous, but there's definitely enough doubt to give the benefit of if Webb doesn't think so. Puyol's was even more of a straight red, imo.
Did my post get deleted, shame, one of my best efforts, oh and I was sober BTW.
I'll still make the point that coming into a football thread and saying the Sport is rubbish, is a little poor, and trolling really as we don't do it to other sports.
Was a terrible World Cup though, a bit like the last cricket one, can't condemn a sport that thrives in hundreds of countries at thousands of level on one tournament, no matter if it is the show-piece.
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Have just read through the Dutch newspapers. They are all blaming Webb for the loss. Geez, I was mildly embarassed to be Dutch last night, now I'm a full-fledged orangophobic.
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