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Anil said:
no he very clearly doesn't. and if you are arguing the difference between her and other greats of the game is analogous to bradman and other greats in cricket, it becomes even more ludicrous and your argument completely falls apart.



i know, which is why setting aside my considerable contempt for her as a person, i agreed that she was a great player.


yes and theirs stack up against hers as well and all the ones i mentioned maintained those stats over a much longer period...
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Bradman only played in 2 countries with 75% of his matches against one opponent and the balance against minnows

Lots of holes

Court dominated tennis for more than a decade and also made time to have 2 kids plus a 2 year retirement during her career

Lots of things to criticise her for but her record is not one of them
 
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Son Of Coco said:
Was she always a church-going whack job? Or is this something she embraced when she left the sport? I guess it's hard to know as it probably wasn't something that was reported on when she was playing tennis.

She is certainly in the running for having the best name for a tennis player. Tennys Sandgren up there too, and funnily enough, also a bit of a nutter going on what he's said recently. Has there been any research done into the mental health effects of naming your child after elements of the sport they end up playing?
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A nutter going back to the 60s

Her views weren’t regarded as being that extreme back then but, unlike most, she’s never changed
 
Shady Slim

Shady Slim

International Coach
social said:
What he doesn’t say is more revealing

Basically dismisses her record before 1968

However, Court won 8 of the first 9 open era slams

BuT sHe WaSn’T tHe BeSt:laugh:
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entirely fair, as i said i don't necessarily agree with the whole thing but was just posting for a different PoV

i think from what i've read, she is a better case than bradman is for a "olde athlete whose raw statistical achievements may be somewhat vitiated by the quality of competition at the time", but still isn't exactly a definite case of that phenomena (Honus Wagner eg comes to mind)
 
Anil

Anil

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Shady Slim said:
i think from what i've read, she is a better case than bradman is for a "olde athlete whose raw statistical achievements may be somewhat vitiated by the quality of competition at the time", but still isn't exactly a definite case of that phenomena (Honus Wagner eg comes to mind)
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she was clearly way ahead of the competition of her time and was the best ever at that point, the biggest difference is bradman is such a statistical freak that he is still miles ahead of anyone who has played since then (and it is pretty clear that no one will even come close to emulating him) while there are enough players after court who have had comparable achievements against arguably stronger competition for much longer periods...
 
Niall

Niall

International Coach
Are we all excited about the Casper Ruud era of domination we are going to enter once Rafa and Novak vanish?

Please speed up some of the courts, we don't need Opelka winning everything, but variety is the spice of life!
 
Shady Slim

Shady Slim

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Anil said:
she was clearly way ahead of the competition of her time and was the best ever at that point, the biggest difference is bradman is such a statistical freak that he is still miles ahead of anyone who has played since then (and it is pretty clear that no one will even come close to emulating him) while there are enough players after court who have had comparable achievements against arguably stronger competition for much longer periods...
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there is where i'd say i land too

finding anil and i are agreeing on a lot more lately... i love it, but think it might be good for Donald Trump...
 
Son Of Coco

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Niall said:
Are we all excited about the Casper Ruud era of domination we are going to enter once Rafa and Novak vanish?

Please speed up some of the courts, we don't need Opelka winning everything, but variety is the spice of life!
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Maybe this is why Kyrgios has started taking his tennis more seriously. He saw Ruud was next in line and thought "**** no!".

I get the feeling they are not best friends.
 
Anil

Anil

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Niall said:
Are we all excited about the Casper Ruud era of domination we are going to enter once Rafa and Novak vanish?

Please speed up some of the courts, we don't need Opelka winning everything, but variety is the spice of life!
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it's a wonder your fingers didn't go limp or numb or something while you tried to type out that absurd jumble of words...
 
Niall

Niall

International Coach
Anil said:
it's a wonder your fingers didn't go limp or numb or something while you tried to type out that absurd jumble of words...
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World number one if he reaches the final and does not play Alcarez.

Not sure what that says about the men's tour, but it aint good. :detective
 
Niall

Niall

International Coach
Odd performance this from NK, clearly not feeling 100% but 1-1 each.

Not sure Ruud will be to concerned with either of these 2 in a semi final.
 
Niall

Niall

International Coach
That Iga v Pegula match was absolutely rotten, in an ideal world both girls would have lost.

Not sure what to make of Iga , was poor last match also but ultimately in the semi final against a lass she loves to play so all good.
 
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