Where to now for Pakistani cricket?

[Richard]

"The weather in England" isn't. The only time you know what the weather in the UK is going to be like is when it happens.

There are no hard-and-fast rules.

As a general pattern - and nothing more - August tends to be the warmest, if not always the driest, month in the summer. August 2007 was decent where the previous couple of months had been diabolical; August 2008 was poor where the previous couple of months had been relatively poor.

It's been said, though, and rightly so, that it is August that colours memories of the summer. The summer holidays, in most places, last the entire month and it's what happens in August that everyone remembers.

September BTW should never have more than a few days' worth of international cricket played in it. For any number of reasons. It's ridiculous how much they've been playing of late.

 

[zaremba]

Personally I would love to see Pakistan play "home" Tests in England. It would be good for British Asians and there would be a great atmosphere at the grounds. And of course it would give Pakistan a life-jacket to help them stay afloat in international cricket.

It does strike me though that it would hand a propaganda coup to the Far Right. You can just imagine the sh;t that the BNP / Daily Mail would spew if Pakistan played "home" matches in England.

 

[Richard]

Ay, easy goes it on the filter-avoidance!

But yes, I agree completely and the thought of the potential gain that that vile organisation that is the BNP could gain through it does unease me a little.

 

[Fusion]

It does strike me though that it would hand a propaganda coup to the Far Right. You can just imagine the sh;t that the BNP / Daily Mail would spew if Pakistan played "home" matches in England.

Not familiar with this. Can you elaborate why this would be an issue?

 

[Richard]

The BNP (British National Party) is an extremist far-right organisation which, of course, has at its heart the aim of white-skin superiority. It masquerades as a political party (when in reality all those heavily involved with it have a complete distaste for democracy - their leader has made the statement that "power is not gained through reasoned discussion, but through well-aimed fists and kicks"... I might be a few words out there, I haven't read the quote for a little while... and on the rare occasions they've won seats on this or that their delegates have made a regular habit of failing to turn-up for council meetings) and purveys a relatively respectable public image in order to attempt to fool the well-minded but relatively simple people (and there's plenty of them out there) into voting for them.

The prospect of the BNP gaining the remotest foothold in UK society is a very, very frightening one indeed for anyone who is not a white supremacist extremist. It will never come close to ruling the country, but any small localised victory will lead to discontent in that area, often resulting in race riots.

I have a few friends - not bad people in any way but relatively simple of mind - who I've recently been very, very alarmed to find-out plan to vote BNP in the next General Election.

The BNP's propaganda changes with huge regularity, but one relatively constant part of it is encouraging the "the pakis are taking-over the country" line of thought (remember, in the UK "paki" is a derogatory racist term used to refer to Asian people as inferior). Clearly, Pakistan playing "at home" in the UK would help them there, quite a bit. The BNP is despicable and detestable, and every Brit who is not a white supremacist extremist and who supports democracy has a duty to fight the BNP's brainwashing attempts and make their true colours known.

Sadly, there are a great many people who realise that they're not worth a vote, but who also think they're not worth wasting time worrying about. This is not true. As I say, it is vital that everyday people take care of their less enlightened friends and make sure they know the true story about the BNP.

Otherwise, the results will be very nasty. The govornment won't fall, but countless millions will be wasted repairing damage that could easily have been averted.

... phew. *wipes brow*

 

[Fusion]

Ah I see. Thanks for the explanation Richard. Sadly, extremist parties like these are slowly but steadily making inroads into the mainstream all over the world.

 

[Uppercut]

How's the weather like in England during late August and early September?

In terms of temperature, generally pretty reasonable. Definitely can play cricket at that time of year.

The amount of rain we get is pretty much constant all year round, but it depends where in the country you are. Cardiff or Manchester are two places where you'll never get five days of play. In the six months since i moved here i don't think there has ever been five straight days without rain at any stage, and Cardiff is supposedly even wetter. Strangely, parts of Yorkshire, despite being nearby, experience very little rain. Hull, for instance, has less rain than anywhere else in the country. Best to speak to the Headingley locals.

 

[Uppercut]

The BNP (British National Party) is an extremist far-right organisation which, of course, has at its heart the aim of white-skin superiority. It masquerades as a political party (when in reality all those heavily involved with it have a complete distaste for democracy - their leader has made the statement that "power is not gained through reasoned discussion, but through well-aimed fists and kicks"... I might be a few words out there, I haven't read the quote for a little while... and on the rare occasions they've won seats on this or that their delegates have made a regular habit of failing to turn-up for council meetings) and purveys a relatively respectable public image in order to attempt to fool the well-minded but relatively simple people (and there's plenty of them out there) into voting for them.

The prospect of the BNP gaining the remotest foothold in UK society is a very, very frightening one indeed for anyone who is not a white supremacist extremist. It will never come close to ruling the country, but any small localised victory will lead to discontent in that area, often resulting in race riots.

I have a few friends - not bad people in any way but relatively simple of mind - who I've recently been very, very alarmed to find-out plan to vote BNP in the next General Election.

The BNP's propaganda changes with huge regularity, but one relatively constant part of it is encouraging the "the pakis are taking-over the country" line of thought (remember, in the UK "paki" is a derogatory racist term used to refer to Asian people as inferior). Clearly, Pakistan playing "at home" in the UK would help them there, quite a bit. The BNP is despicable and detestable, and every Brit who is not a white supremacist extremist and who supports democracy has a duty to fight the BNP's brainwashing attempts and make their true colours known.

Sadly, there are a great many people who realise that they're not worth a vote, but who also think they're not worth wasting time worrying about. This is not true. As I say, it is vital that everyday people take care of their less enlightened friends and make sure they know the true story about the BNP.

Otherwise, the results will be very nasty. The govornment won't fall, but countless millions will be wasted repairing damage that could easily have been averted.

... phew. *wipes brow*

Pretty well summed up, it's always a shock to me to discover that reasonable people I've been friends with for a long period of time are supporters of the BNP (not because they're racist, but because they buy a lot of their ****). I'm not entirely sure what to do about it. Special AKA probably have the right idea.

The one thing you didn't quite stress enough is their general incompetence. A direct quote from their website about their policy on dealing with Home goes as such:

We wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles

Quite.

 

[Richard]

I touched on the incompetence by mentioning the regularity with which elected councillors fail to turn-up for countil meetings (this also emphasises their disdain for democracy) but I thought I'd not bother going extensively into it due to the fact that it's not of enormous relevance here.

Make no mistake, they're bad, in so many ways.

 

[Sanz]

I dont think SA, Australia, England, NZ and WI would even consider touring Pakistan in the near future, hence The only solution for Pakistan Cricket is to have all its tests played as 'Away' Series and continue to persuade Asian Teams to tour Pakistan. It is not an easy task considering what just happened but that is how it has to start again.

 

[Shaggy Alfresco]

]It does strike me though that it would hand a propaganda coup to the Far Right. You can just imagine the sh;t that the BNP / Daily Mail would spew if Pakistan played "home" matches in England.

More likely they wouldn't give a toss.

 

[Richard]

Y'reckon?

 

[four_or_six]

Pretty well summed up, it's always a shock to me to discover that reasonable people I've been friends with for a long period of time are supporters of the BNP (not because they're racist, but because they buy a lot of their ****). I'm not entirely sure what to do about it. Special AKA probably have the right idea.

I've never had the experience of anyone I know supporting them. But I had a South African housemate who was shocked at the leaflet we got around election time. And that was because it was so hidden what their real agenda was. I think a lot of people are really very badly informed and the BNP try to look vaguely acceptable sometimes, and so people don't quite realise what they're supporting.

 

[Richard]

I think a lot of people are really very badly informed and the BNP try to look vaguely acceptable sometimes, and so people don't quite realise what they're supporting.

You think so? I know so.

 

[pasag]

Cricinfo - Butt expects tours to Pakistan in 'six to nine months'

The guy seems to be living in a dream world. Really, the ICC must step in here. I feel they must also take some responsability here and should not be sanctioning cricket in places where it's clearly not safe to play.

 

[Craig]

Cricinfo - Butt expects tours to Pakistan in 'six to nine months'

The guy seems to be living in a dream world. Really, the ICC must step in here. I feel they must also take some responsability here and should not be sanctioning cricket in places where it's clearly not safe to play.

Maybe he has some of Perm's stash? Perhaps he is Perm's supplier?

 

[four_or_six]

Cricinfo - Butt expects tours to Pakistan in 'six to nine months'

The guy seems to be living in a dream world. Really, the ICC must step in here. I feel they must also take some responsability here and should not be sanctioning cricket in places where it's clearly not safe to play.

I don't know who he expects to persuade to come. Eng/Aus/WI/NZ/SA were all for moving the champions trophy before this happened, India are off the cards right now, and there's no way Sri Lanka are going to be there in six months time.

It's sad, but that's how it is.

 

[Days of Grace]

Only Zimbabwe or Bangladesh could be persuaded (bullied?) into touring imo.

 

[Richard]

Cricinfo - Butt expects tours to Pakistan in 'six to nine months'

The guy seems to be living in a dream world.

Haha, ind33d.

Really, the ICC must step in here. I feel they must also take some responsability here and should not be sanctioning cricket in places where it's clearly not safe to play.

Who? BCCI? ECB? ACB? Which one of the ICC boards would you think would step in?

The ICC's executive board (which is what makes the decisions, not the executives themselves) is notorious for indecesiveness and I doubt any concrete definition of what's going to be done in the Pakistan case will be made.

 

[TT Boy]

Butt’s a ****ing idiot. Instead coming out condemning the attacks offering his deepest regrets, all he has done is take potshots at Chris Broad and make ******** statements like international cricket will return soon, it won’t and the only sides who visit in the future are associates or at best, Bangladesh/Zimbabwe. Guy needs to wake up.