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**Official** County Cricket 2016

Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
And of course, the county are totally blameless in all this aren't they?

Surely it's better then the alternative of going bust.
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Durham's debt is peanuts compared to Yorkshire.

Durham have done exactly what the ECB obliged them to do. Then found themselves in a situation where they have a big stadium but have to bid an absolute fortune to stages matches in the hope that it pays for themselves. And then they get stuck with the ****ing ****tiest fixtures possible and end up losing even more money in the process.

The debt is ECB's doing. If you're bidding nigh on a million a Test and then you get ****** ones in May against ****ing Bangladesh or West Indies or some other unsaleable ****e. Then yes that is the ECB's fault.
 
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91Jmay

International Coach
Pretty shocking decision. They deserved a points deduction for next year but not relegation. Surprised ECB didn't give Notts their place instead. :unsure:
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Not shocking at all.

The ECB did not make them build a massive ground.

The ECB did not make them bid beyond their means for International matches.

The ECB did not make them pay players more then they can afford.

The ECB is however the ones that are stopping them from going bust and in any sporting situation, that requires an on-field penalty.
 
Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
Not shocking at all.

The ECB did not make them build a massive ground.

The ECB did not make them bid beyond their means for International matches.

The ECB did not make them pay players more then they can afford.

The ECB is however the ones that are stopping them from going bust and in any sporting situation, that requires an on-field penalty.
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You might want to shut the **** up until you're know what you're talking about. Although given you are moving in on 60,000 posts that advice may be a little late.

The ECB made it part of Durham becoming a first class county that they HAD to build a suitable Test venue and stage Test matches.

Then they invented this amazing process where counties with a suitable venue had to make blind bids for Tests. Durham were then allocated the ****tiest of matches available, time after time, whilst Cardiff got Ashes Tests without going through countless unsaleable Tests like Bangladesh in May. Then you have the whining pricks on Sky and BBC radio going on endlessly about how cold it is the entire time because you know it doesn't get cold in ****ing London in May.

Durham have one of the lowest overall salaries in County Cricket. Along with the blatant southern county bias from the selectors, why else do you think we just lost two players to Slurry? Money.

All of the debt is due to the ECB in the first place. The Durham Council have just been arseholes about it, politically motivated presumably to bash what is seen as a Tory sport. Warwickshire had a £20m loan from their local council, who agreed at times to allow delays in repayment and Warwickshire aren't now paying interest on it. When Glamorgan got into financial difficulties they got given another Ashes Test. When Hampshire were in trouble a few years ago they sold their ground to the council for £6.5m.

Oh and Yorkshire's debt is £15m more than Durham's was.
 
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Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah exactly, I think if you need to be bailed out then a penalty is reasonable but it really is a severe one.
 
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Tom Flint

International Regular
Gutted for the likes of onions/collingwood their final years will be spent in division 2 after giving great service to the county game. Whoevers fault it is, it is certainly not theirs.
 
theegyptian

theegyptian

International Vice-Captain
There has got to be a severe penalty that has consequences otherwise every team that gets in any kind of trouble will just take bailout money from the ECB imo.

Scaly's right in that other counties have been in trouble and have had benefactors that have helped them out when they may well have gone bust. Private individuals like Graves has given Yorkshire money, councils giving favourable loans and cash injections etc. Presumably Durham exhausted every option they had in that respect and couldn't find an adequate solution and had to go to the ECB. That isn't Yorkshire or Warwickshire's fault that they managed to find the favourable financing- and Durham couldn't.

Amount of debt on it's own is a pointless measure without context. Clearly the context here is that Durham can no longer pay their creditors.

It is the players you feel for. Jennings especially for me. 7 hundreds this year and was the best bat in div 1, signs a new 4 year contract a month before this comes out. Durham likely to be stuck in div 2 for at least two years. Wonder if he can rip the contract up. That would send Scaly over the edge.
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
The ECB should be allowed to void that contract as it was entered into under false pretences and when the county couldn't afford it.

Scaly's reference to debts is irrelevant as others have been able to cover their immediate and short term requirements, hence not needing bailing out.

This happens in Football a lot and all those clubs get appropriate punishments so this is the exact same thing and like I say, it's a lot better for Durham then the alternative...
 
burr

burr

State Vice-Captain
Scaly piscine said:
What an absolute ****ing disgrace ECB. Go and **** yourselves and shove your competitions up your arse. I will not be following domestic cricket again in the foreseeable future.

The only team that hasn't been relegated and they get double ****ed for doing everything the ****ing wankers at the ECB wanted in the first place, who then ****ed them over with the extortionate bidding setup and ****ed them over again to give Tests to the ovine bothering ****hole over in Wales. Then they have the ****ing gall to agree to accelerating less than a million in payments and decide you know what, we'll ****ing relegate you anyway.

Go and ****ing yourselves you absolute scumbags. How is it you get restrospectively docked 46 ****ing points to something that was agreed to, meanwhile for an agreed package next season which is far more substantial they start at -48. The Durham Council can go **** themselves as well.
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Hear hear. Shameful.
 
Scaly piscine

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
AndrewB said:
Don't really see why this would be relevant, but it's not true anyway; every county's been relegated at least once.
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Durham had not been relegated before the Evil Corrupt Bastards shafted them, they were the only team that had been in the top flight since it split into two divisions.

Have Durham CCC Been Shafted By The ECB? - Eximo Sports Project

And of course Marc wouldn't see it relevant when Warwickshire is the one of the teams that have had a largely interest free loan of £20m from their local council to cover their arse. Hampshire themselves had a £36.5m bailout from the local authority. Durham's debt is in comparison minuscule and all through the fault of the ECB.

Also Durham had a private bailout option earlier this year, which the ECB told them to reject. Presumably so the ****ing vermin could **** them over afterwards.
 
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Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Scaly piscine said:
Durham had not been relegated before the Evil Corrupt Bastards shafted them, they were the only team that had been in the top flight since it split into two divisions.

Have Durham CCC Been Shafted By The ECB? - Eximo Sports Project

And of course Marc wouldn't see it relevant when Warwickshire is the one of the teams that have had a largely interest free loan of £20m from their local council to cover their arse. Hampshire themselves had a £36.5m bailout from the local authority. Durham's debt is in comparison minuscule and all through the fault of the ECB.

Also Durham had a private bailout option earlier this year, which the ECB told them to reject. Presumably so the ****ing vermin could **** them over afterwards.
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This is gold.
 
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