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Let's say we get a new Bradman...what happens?
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OverratedSanity
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Swear I've seen it being used plenty in sports articles recently. Probably a by-product of lots of batsmen piling it on.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
It would certainly explain his ridiculous voice.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
All Australians have ridiculous voices though. Coincidence? Doubtful.
viriya
International Captain
That's not entirely true - it's not as affected as wkts/match but having support for partnerships and a platform setup already when you come into bat both do affect your batting average.
Murali's 2000s is not unarguably Bradmanesque I agree, but it's the closest "career-length" period where a bowler dominated the numbers like that. Sydney Barnes did it but for only 27 tests. I think something like a 17.5 bowling average with 6-7 wickets/match can be considered unquestionably Bradmanesque.
fredfertang
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As Bradmans go the one we've already had was pretty average
Adders
International Coach
Yeah the Huss is probably the closest I can think of to maintain a ridiculous average over a decent sample size. Just checked and as you say after 20 tests he was averaging 84.8.........but by the time he got to 50 tests it was a far more realistic 52.16.
He's a good example of why I just don't think it would be possible to dominate today's game in the way Bradman did. Hussey played his first 50 tests in 4 and half years, The Don played his 52 tests over 20 years (7 year break during the war years) then factor in all the other cricket Hussey would have played in those 5 years and it would have been more than Bradman would have played in probably 4 or 5 careers.
The only way I could conceivably see it ever happening is for a late starter like Hussey to play tests only, totally dominate for 5 or 6 years and then retire.
Riggins
International Captain
See that's the thing. This sort of analysis just assumes that no-one is actually good enough to actually have the stupidly high average, only to maintain somewhat insincerely. The point is if the player was actually that good.
GotSpin
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You do know that wasnt normal..
GotSpin
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The best thing about Bradman is that he missed some of the best years of his career through both illness and a world war.
Adders
International Coach
Genuinely don't get what you're saying there Riggins.
Clearly Hussey was a total gun when he came on the scene and his 20 test average reflects how ****ing good he was. My point is for a player that good to maintain that standard over a full career (for arguments sake 10 years, 100 tests, 150 odi's then throw in some T20 and all the domestic cricket) is just inconceivable to me.
Clearly Hussey was a total gun when he came on the scene and his 20 test average reflects how ****ing good he was. My point is for a player that good to maintain that standard over a full career (for arguments sake 10 years, 100 tests, 150 odi's then throw in some T20 and all the domestic cricket) is just inconceivable to me.
JBMAC
State Captain
Settle down fred
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Jimmy Adams averaged over 80 after 16 Test and under 60 after 26. Ended with an average of 41.26 after 54 Tests.
Good form and a small sample size at the beginning a career can lead to some staggering stats. That and having a giant Dutchman rearrange your face.
Victor Ian
International Coach
Keeping on topic, on a boring day at work...
If TNB player for
Australia. In the Media, his face would be on everything. We'd be eating TNB pies, McDonalds would create a TNB burger and we have a KFC TNB bucket. We'd laud his average as being because he played the Australian way. The worlds media would deride his sledging, write articles about how he is an ugly Australian and after every game there would be new statistical features projecting how many runs he would compile. He'd be the first batsman to score 1000+ runs in an innings of beach cricket. He'd be a national hero and become PM after he retired, then settle into a commentating gig with Channel nine and be universally derided for his boysy antics.
New Zealand. His presence would make New Zealand start to play 5 test match series against Australia every year. Every piece of media would be focused on making Austrlian's grovel (which they would). The ICC would consider rewriting the laws of cricket regarding hitting the ball along the ground without it bouncing after he hit the last ball of a WC final along the ground for 4 to take New Zealand to a win against Australia. Sheep would be lined up on streets in a Guard of Honour wherever he went.
India. He would be lauded as another god. Temples in honour of Sachin would become largely vacated and there would be serious articles discussing whether he was the newest incarnation of Krishna. His face would adorn the top, bottom and all four sides of every package bought and sold and a near war would break out when his effigy was burned in Pakistan. Being unable to ever set a daylight foot in public without causing deaths from crowd crushes, people would wonder if he was maybe a vampire.
Pakistan. He would be dropped from the team 4 or five times. Around the world there would be rumours he is involved in match fixing everytime he lost his wicket for less than 100. He'd be labelled the ultimate flat track bully for averaging 200+ in the UAE but only a mere 90odd outside of there. He would have the distinction of scoring the most runs away from home of any player and the least AT home, being unlikely to ever play there.
England. He'd be named TNBbo. He'd be in a weekly TNB-gate. The price of admission to cricket would sky rocket so that only corporates would attend and all sports broadcasts would be only viewed via very expensive subscriptions. Fleet street would froth at the mouth to uncover every seedy sms he sent and would smeer him as a *** fiend. He'd be labelled as disruptive to the team harmony as the less talented players would polarise against him while the large management team would secretly try and oust him from the team for showing up their ineptitude. Post Career, there'd be a poll to finally oust the Windsors and install him as the new king, though it would never eventuate as he'd mysteriously dissapear in an unfortunate accident.
South Africa. He'd be the ultimate man. Aside from his cricket feats, he'd have been naturally talented in every junior sport he played and not an article would be written without a mention of this. He'd have the greatest ODI average ever with the only blip being his performaces in World Cup Finals. He'd wrestle Great White sharks in the off season and cause the extinction of all big game in the country - all without a gun. He'd most likely be a very accomplished bowler too - Hi might even keep wickets.
West Indies. His presence would herald a new era of supremacy for the team as youngsters everywhere would turn from playing baseball and basketball and play cricket again. In a test he'd score 500no, in ODI's 300no and in T20 would score the first double century. He have an awesome sounding name and would be cooler than liquid nitrogen. He'd chew gum as he walked to the crease with a swagger and play without a helmet. The whole world would love him.
Sri Lanka. He'd have a better average than Bradman though everyone would diminish his greatness on account of games played against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and at home. He'd be labelled a chucker, even as a batsman. Through it all, he'd always be smiling.
World wide, people would ask his opinion about everything. The United nations would consult him and his statements regardng Global Warming would make people stand up and listen. In America, the curious public would have him hit up to start baseball matches. In China, he would sing duets with their leading ladies. In all formats of cricket he would have the lowest tally of 6's but the highest tally of fours.
If TNB player for
Australia. In the Media, his face would be on everything. We'd be eating TNB pies, McDonalds would create a TNB burger and we have a KFC TNB bucket. We'd laud his average as being because he played the Australian way. The worlds media would deride his sledging, write articles about how he is an ugly Australian and after every game there would be new statistical features projecting how many runs he would compile. He'd be the first batsman to score 1000+ runs in an innings of beach cricket. He'd be a national hero and become PM after he retired, then settle into a commentating gig with Channel nine and be universally derided for his boysy antics.
New Zealand. His presence would make New Zealand start to play 5 test match series against Australia every year. Every piece of media would be focused on making Austrlian's grovel (which they would). The ICC would consider rewriting the laws of cricket regarding hitting the ball along the ground without it bouncing after he hit the last ball of a WC final along the ground for 4 to take New Zealand to a win against Australia. Sheep would be lined up on streets in a Guard of Honour wherever he went.
India. He would be lauded as another god. Temples in honour of Sachin would become largely vacated and there would be serious articles discussing whether he was the newest incarnation of Krishna. His face would adorn the top, bottom and all four sides of every package bought and sold and a near war would break out when his effigy was burned in Pakistan. Being unable to ever set a daylight foot in public without causing deaths from crowd crushes, people would wonder if he was maybe a vampire.
Pakistan. He would be dropped from the team 4 or five times. Around the world there would be rumours he is involved in match fixing everytime he lost his wicket for less than 100. He'd be labelled the ultimate flat track bully for averaging 200+ in the UAE but only a mere 90odd outside of there. He would have the distinction of scoring the most runs away from home of any player and the least AT home, being unlikely to ever play there.
England. He'd be named TNBbo. He'd be in a weekly TNB-gate. The price of admission to cricket would sky rocket so that only corporates would attend and all sports broadcasts would be only viewed via very expensive subscriptions. Fleet street would froth at the mouth to uncover every seedy sms he sent and would smeer him as a *** fiend. He'd be labelled as disruptive to the team harmony as the less talented players would polarise against him while the large management team would secretly try and oust him from the team for showing up their ineptitude. Post Career, there'd be a poll to finally oust the Windsors and install him as the new king, though it would never eventuate as he'd mysteriously dissapear in an unfortunate accident.
South Africa. He'd be the ultimate man. Aside from his cricket feats, he'd have been naturally talented in every junior sport he played and not an article would be written without a mention of this. He'd have the greatest ODI average ever with the only blip being his performaces in World Cup Finals. He'd wrestle Great White sharks in the off season and cause the extinction of all big game in the country - all without a gun. He'd most likely be a very accomplished bowler too - Hi might even keep wickets.
West Indies. His presence would herald a new era of supremacy for the team as youngsters everywhere would turn from playing baseball and basketball and play cricket again. In a test he'd score 500no, in ODI's 300no and in T20 would score the first double century. He have an awesome sounding name and would be cooler than liquid nitrogen. He'd chew gum as he walked to the crease with a swagger and play without a helmet. The whole world would love him.
Sri Lanka. He'd have a better average than Bradman though everyone would diminish his greatness on account of games played against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and at home. He'd be labelled a chucker, even as a batsman. Through it all, he'd always be smiling.
World wide, people would ask his opinion about everything. The United nations would consult him and his statements regardng Global Warming would make people stand up and listen. In America, the curious public would have him hit up to start baseball matches. In China, he would sing duets with their leading ladies. In all formats of cricket he would have the lowest tally of 6's but the highest tally of fours.
