I think you're pretty spot on. Doesn't excuse him as you say, Iain O'Brien battled a lot of demons and I believe Obba would never have involved himself. I would say that Lou is a much more whimsical individual.Wow.
I don't want to excuse Vincent at all, but I wonder how much the fixing (a) was influenced by his depression and state of mind, and (b) created guilt and exacerbated the depression.
"World famous", "superstar". The rest of the article makes pretty clear that this player was a member of Vincent's team (he once refused to talk to Vincent on the team bus after a fix went wrong). Looking at the Chandigarh Lions team for 2007 and 2008 and it seems that there were not an awful lot of superstars in the side."...he began fixing in 2008 in the Twenty20 Indian Cricket League for a world-famous former international. We know the identity of the cricketer but cannot name him for legal reasons.
"[After an approach by a bookie Vincent] went to the room of his superstar friend to tell him what had happened. Chillingly, the star is understood to have said ‘you are now working for me’."
Vincent has told the ICC that he would use colourful bat handles to signal to his bookie that the fix was on. He has identified 12 games around the world, three of them in England that involved fixing. The Lancashire match against Durham is being studied along with the Sussex versus Kent match on Aug 23, 2011 – a game that has been under suspicion for a long time, and a Twenty20 quarter-final on Aug 8 between Sussex and Lancashire. He has also identified a Champions League match for Auckland Aces against Hampshire in 2012.
He has detailed offers of women, bottles of perfume and says he was paid £40,000 for one of the Sussex fixes.
Mal Loye opened the batting in Twenty20 cricket with Vincent in 2008 and was asked to help him organise spot-fixes.
Loye ignored his requests, but only revealed his full story when approached by England and Wales Cricket Board detectives last year who were piecing together the case against Vincent.
“In the beginning [when Vincent first made the approach] I just thought what is going on here?” Loye told Telegraph Sport. “It was a very lonely place. My way of dealing with it was wrong. If it happened now with all the education in place I would have been a lot more informed about approaching the right person to let them know about it. In the end my way of dealing with it was to just ignore him.”
In 2008 anti-corruption education for county players was minimal and there was not a proper structure in place for cricketers to report approaches, even though the failure to do so was an offence.
Loye, who played seven one-day internationals for England, all on the 2006-07 Ashes tour, now regrets not reporting Vincent at the time, but was unaware of the implications of the fixing approaches.
He also feared the impact that reporting Vincent would have on his mental health, with the New Zealander having suffered from depression in the past.
“It is a lot more acceptable now to report approaches,” Loye said. “It now part of everyone’s duty as a player to report, but before it was a dirty word even to be linked in anyway to corruption, even if in a positive way such as you being the one reporting the offence.
“I just did not want any association with it at all. The ECB approached me last year as part of their fixing case and I had put it out of my mind until then. My career as a cricketer was done and dusted. Then when I was asked about it [by the ECB] the emotion and details all came out.
“When I put them down on paper there were some incredible stories and a sense of relief came over me. I love the game and for it to be treated in this way by Louie was completely unacceptable. I hoped it [Vincent fixing] was just a one-off but clearly it was not.”
In 2008 Loye was organising a benefit year which failed to gain momentum and he struggled for form too. He moved to Northamptonshire, the county where he started his career, the following year before retiring in 2011. He is now a cricket coach at Wellingborough School.
Loye will not face any retrospective disciplinary action for failing to report Vincent, as the authorities have accepted the culture was not in place six years ago. It is similar to the way Essex players laughed off Pakistan leg-spinner Danish Kaneria’s attempt to fix matches, as described in court in 2012, where the word used was “banter”.
Loye is one of several former county colleagues of Vincent’s who have been interviewed by the ECB and provided testimony which backs up his own confession.