• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Ashwin and Jadeja ranked no 1 and 2 test bowlers.

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
You are focusing too much on the rankings. Rankings change a lot and it is heavily influenced by a biased cricket calender that allows bigger teams to play close to 15 test matches a year and smaller teams are lucky to get half of that.
Which clearly explains how Steyn remained number 1 for so long when SA don't play anywhere near as much Test cricket as others...
 

Kirkut

International Regular
Ashwin doesn't spin it as much as Murali or Swann, but he compensates that with the ability to plan every wicket. He's a thinking bowler.
 

Gob

International Coach
Can't think of two bowlers who benefited so much from home conditions as much as these two may be big Vern few years back. Murali used to feast in at home but he was very good in all other countries bar Australia and India.Ratings are ratings though they only show what you achieve not your ability so both of them have reached to the top but don't think either particularly Jadeja would be all that threatening outside the subcontinent and WI so the rankings will eventually come down once they travel more
 
Last edited:

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
What do the Indian posters think will be the balance of the side when they next head overseas (well, away from spinning conditions)? 4 bowlers or will they play both Jadeja and Ashwin to give themselves five?
 

OverratedSanity

Request Your Custom Title Now!
What do the Indian posters think will be the balance of the side when they next head overseas (well, away from spinning conditions)? 4 bowlers or will they play both Jadeja and Ashwin to give themselves five?
I think they'll play 5 bowlers. Probably begin with Hardik Pandya as the fast bowling AR and Aswhin as the spin bowling AR. Once that fails, they'll try Jadeja. Then the pacers will start breaking down and they'll bring back RP Singh.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Can't think of two bowlers who benefited so much from home conditions as much as these two may be big Vern few years back. Murali used to feast in at home but he was very good in all other countries bar Australia and India.Ratings are ratings though they only show what you achieve not your ability so both of them have reached to the top but don't think either particularly Jadeja would be all that threatening outside the subcontinent and WI so the rankings will eventually come down once they travel more
Dennis Lillee
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
What do the Indian posters think will be the balance of the side when they next head overseas (well, away from spinning conditions)? 4 bowlers or will they play both Jadeja and Ashwin to give themselves five?
I think Kumble will want to play both of them with 3 pacers - hopefully Kohli will agree with Kumble
 

Gob

International Coach
England is as much "away" for Lillee as SL and WI are for Ashwin. Gotta cop it, weldone's got you here.
Well when I said home condition I specifically meant at home. Conditions in Aust and England are worlds apart but yeah both of them are overall suited to fast bowling so I can see where you coming from. That being said there isnt a specific type of conditions in Australia like its in India especially back in the day when some wickets were flat some were bouncy and some turned so don't think I can say that Lillee benefited from home conditions anywhere near to the extend Ashwim and Jadeja have with a straight face. His performances in the subcontinent are definitely poor and should go against him but they were also extremely sample sized like Murali's in Australia.
 
Last edited:

Shri

Mr. Glass
Can't think of two bowlers who benefited so much from home conditions as much as these two may be big Vern few years back. Murali used to feast in at home but he was very good in all other countries bar Australia and India.Ratings are ratings though they only show what you achieve not your ability so both of them have reached to the top but don't think either particularly Jadeja would be all that threatening outside the subcontinent and WI so the rankings will eventually come down once they travel more
Jadeja can still focus on his accuracy overseas and be a restricting bowler, if not a wicket taking one.
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
What do the Indian posters think will be the balance of the side when they next head overseas (well, away from spinning conditions)? 4 bowlers or will they play both Jadeja and Ashwin to give themselves five?
Assuming everyone is fit, we will probably go - Shami - Bhuvi - Umesh - Jadeja - Ashwin [Bhuvi/Jadeja/Aswin can all bat.] Ishant for Bhuvi in Australia.
If there is absolutely nothing in it for spinners, Pandya will replace one of Jaddu/Ash depending on their form.
 

Top