***Official*** England in New Zealand series 2013

[thierry henry]

Have to be impressed by the way Mitch is bowling atm, but....is he actually that good? Reason I ask is, people keep on saying his attributes are "he's aggressive and hits the pitch hard", yet every time I watch him bowl he's hitting the same sort of speeds that Kyle Mills does on a good day. Is he secretly a nagging, accurate swing bowler pretending to be a tearaway? I'm not watching atm, is he hitting good speeds? Weird thing is, the speedo will say 135kph but batsman play him as if he's quick.

 

[BeeGee]

Superb from Butler.

 

[straw man]

Butler is bowling well here and I'm impressed that he hit 140km considering his injury history.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Discussion point for the next McCullum family gathering there.

 

[Mike5181]

Have to be impressed by the way Mitch is bowling atm, but....is he actually that good? Reason I ask is, people keep on saying his attributes are "he's aggressive and hits the pitch hard", yet every time I watch him bowl he's hitting the same sort of speeds that Kyle Mills does on a good day. Is he secretly a nagging, accurate swing bowler pretending to be a tearaway? I'm not watching atm, is he hitting good speeds? Weird thing is, the speedo will say 135kph but batsman play him as if he's quick.

He's more of a 137-141 bowler.

 

[straw man]

Have to be impressed by the way Mitch is bowling atm, but....is he actually that good? Reason I ask is, people keep on saying his attributes are "he's aggressive and hits the pitch hard", yet every time I watch him bowl he's hitting the same sort of speeds that Kyle Mills does on a good day. Is he secretly a nagging, accurate swing bowler pretending to be a tearaway? I'm not watching atm, is he hitting good speeds? Weird thing is, the speedo will say 135kph but batsman play him as if he's quick.

Can definitely see where you're coming from. Perhaps it's the fairly slow approach to the crease that makes the ball seem relatively quicker. He does generate good bounce sometimes though.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Is it a drop if you didn't even get a hand on it?

Horrible.

 

[Zinzan]

Mark Richardson is officially New Zealand's Ian Healy.

 

[straw man]

I just..........

 

[Prince EWS]

McCullum would've missed that stumping chance by miles as well if it didn't hit the pegs.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

The two danger men at the crease now.

In other news, Simon Toull thought NcCullum should have been dropped instead of Hira.

 

[Hurricane]

Dear God of the cricketing world,

Please don't let Rutherford turn out to be an unco in the field like Nicol.

Thanks

 

[Mike5181]

Mark Richardson is officially New Zealand's Ian Healy.

He's becoming increasingly annoying.

Good on ya Butler!

 

[Zinzan]

Dear God of the cricketing world,

Please don't let Rutherford turn out to be an unco in the field like Nicol.

Thanks

You had to mention that name didn't you

 

[thierry henry]

Can definitely see where you're coming from. Perhaps it's the fairly slow approach to the crease that makes the ball seem relatively quicker. He does generate good bounce sometimes though.

Yep I'm not hating...just, in terms of his future prospects, I don't really see what compelling attributes he has. He's neither very fast nor very tall and as far as I'm aware he's not known as a canny swing bowler or for being super accurate.

 

[thierry henry]

Mark Richardson is officially New Zealand's Ian Healy.

I know I'm the guy that hates everything but....every single one of our commentators is just awful. Just fundamentally moronic in their analysis of the game (and these dozy ***** used to play for us!). I even like some of the Aussie and English comms, but absolutely none of ours.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Yeah was just thinking the same. There's a paradox isn't there, you want your team to win every game but you also want every game to be meaningful. Wouldn't be thinking like that for the Tests though, obvs.

Certainly agree about the tests. This is just the appetiser anyway and deep down does any fan really mind if they lose this series as long as a few new players show they are up to it like the new lad McClenaghan has for NZ?

 

[stumpski]

4-0-9-2. Quite the comeback.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

I was expecting a bit of DRS action there.....

So no DRS in T20s.....

 

[Hurricane]

Yep I'm not hating...just, in terms of his future prospects, I don't really see what compelling attributes he has. He's neither very fast nor very tall and as far as I'm aware he's not known as a canny swing bowler or for being super accurate.

So far he is smarter at LO bowling than Bracewell so if he just turns out to be a good white ball bowler I will take that.