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Why is Australia so weak against tail enders?
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Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
No offence Stephen, but as I've mentioned so many times on this forum, this is an example of people thinking their team is the only one that suffers from some sort of fault/habit that happens to every team.
England fans ALWAYS talk about their inability to get tailenders out.
Plenty of times Indian fans have mentioned it too.
It's not an Australian thing at all.
This, plus every team thinking they have the "typical" batting collapse trademarked, is so commonly said on this forum, when it happens to every team.
England fans ALWAYS talk about their inability to get tailenders out.
Plenty of times Indian fans have mentioned it too.
It's not an Australian thing at all.
This, plus every team thinking they have the "typical" batting collapse trademarked, is so commonly said on this forum, when it happens to every team.
Flem274*
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Heaps of teams are bad against the tail tbf. A lot of it is to do with the expectation that a few of your bowlers need to know how to hold a bat these days, so number nines and even number tens are capable of scoring runs.
The days of the phailbunneh are on the way out. Chris Martin's impending retirement or dropping will be a blow to them.
The days of the phailbunneh are on the way out. Chris Martin's impending retirement or dropping will be a blow to them.
Flem274*
123/5
What if it's not a collapse so much as an inevitable? NZ and Pakistan the ones scrapping for rights on that surely?
G.I.Joe
International Coach
This, tbh.
Uppercut
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Jono makes an excellent point but as an outside observer I have to say that Australia are indeed particularly bad at it.
The reason's pretty simple, they just suck at bowling to the tail. Bowl too short, fields go defensive too quickly, don't attack the stumps, and no real strike bowler to turn to when things get hairy.
The reason's pretty simple, they just suck at bowling to the tail. Bowl too short, fields go defensive too quickly, don't attack the stumps, and no real strike bowler to turn to when things get hairy.
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stephen
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I realise that most teams have problems occasionally, but we have really suffered with an Ashes defeat, losing at home to South Africa and now losing to India. All because we cannot get a number 10 and 11 out.
This has all been in the last three years. It's getting frustrating.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
The only reason the ones involving Australia have particularly been remembered is that it has happened in losses, or has resulted in a lost series.
In other matches it has happened to teams when they were already pummeled by the top order and then couldn't get out the tail to make it even worse, or they couldn't get out the tail but ended up winning anyway.
In other matches it has happened to teams when they were already pummeled by the top order and then couldn't get out the tail to make it even worse, or they couldn't get out the tail but ended up winning anyway.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
It's an illusion created by the fact that it's happened to Australia at such crucial moments.
In the last three years (which is a timeframe someone mentioned), Australia have actually been the third best team at bowling to tailenders. Bangladesh have actually been the best, surprisingly, although we can possibly put that down to declaration hitting.
In the last three years (which is a timeframe someone mentioned), Australia have actually been the third best team at bowling to tailenders. Bangladesh have actually been the best, surprisingly, although we can possibly put that down to declaration hitting.
Code:
v Bangladesh 13.64
v Sri Lanka 15.14
v Australia 15.69
v New Zealand 15.95
v South Africa 16.21
v England 17.42
v India 17.61
v Pakistan 19.09
v West Indies 19.15
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Exactly.
Redbacks
International Captain
Thus:
Why are we so bad at bowling to the tail in crucial moment in test matches?
Field placements and poor planning as mentioned in previous posts being a factor. On dead tracks teams seem to execute poor plans against the tail. A bit of life in the wicket and they pretty much fall over. Therefore I would put it down to teams having a generic plan against the tail that works well in some cases but doesn't work so well when they knuckle down.
Why are we so bad at bowling to the tail in crucial moment in test matches?
Field placements and poor planning as mentioned in previous posts being a factor. On dead tracks teams seem to execute poor plans against the tail. A bit of life in the wicket and they pretty much fall over. Therefore I would put it down to teams having a generic plan against the tail that works well in some cases but doesn't work so well when they knuckle down.
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Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Corrin going to all lengths to hold the Ashes past January.
