weldone
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Yeah, in this inning the Aussie fast bowlers won against Sehwag, not to forget that he played a similar shot a few deliveries ago and the ball pitched just out of the reach of the fielder.
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Sehwag weak against shortball : johnson
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Faisal1985
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I know...but i don't think he scored any boundaries off those deliveries that were headed for the rib cage ish area from Johnson. I saw the highlights and all were tucked to the leg slip area for a single or double at most...and he got out doing the same thing...
Don't get me wrong on how brilliant an opener he is. I only saw the highlights of opening because he scored a fifty...
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Why does he have to score a boundary against bodyline bouncers to prove his point? Not in test match, at least. His primary job isn't to entertain us, it's to make runs for his team and stay at the crease to make more runs. So, he'll do a good job leaving/defending/taking singles on those deliveries and make the most of some other ones (which he couldn't do in the 2nd inning).
And no need to sugarcoat your statement by exclaiming how good an opener he's. I'm not his biggest fan you know
Faisal1985
International Vice-Captain
Why does he have to score a boundary against bodyline bouncers to prove his point? Not in test match, at least. His primary job isn't to entertain us, it's to make runs for his team and stay at the crease to make more runs. So, he'll do a good job leaving/defending/taking singles on those deliveries and make the most of some other ones (which he couldn't do in the 2nd inning).
And no need to sugarcoat your statement by exclaiming how good an opener he's. I'm not his biggest fan you know
You sound like from the Sehwag religion.He was scoring at a strike rate of 100+. He got his fifty from 38 balls. This means that he is a killer of an opener. At the same time it means that had the short balls been his best scoring area or his strength he would have pulled those over the boundary for runs as well. It goes with his nature. If he can hit it he will. So there is nothing wrong with suggesting that he has a hard time scoring freely off of body line bouncers. He lost his wicket in the process as well twice in the same test on short deliveries.
Burgey
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I think it depends on what you mean by "weak".
I don't think anyone, Johnson included, suggests he's Bevan weak, but it's an area you can, comparatively at least, keep him quiet and use to tie him up, playing on his own desire to score really quickly.
To that extent he's weaker vs the short ball tucking him up, but it's not like he's diabolical.
Of course, consistently banging the ball in when its new does its own damage from a bowling POV. Conventional wisdom is to keep it up and preserve the shine. If he doesn't fall to the leg trap you've likely done yourself a disservice.
I don't think anyone, Johnson included, suggests he's Bevan weak, but it's an area you can, comparatively at least, keep him quiet and use to tie him up, playing on his own desire to score really quickly.
To that extent he's weaker vs the short ball tucking him up, but it's not like he's diabolical.
Of course, consistently banging the ball in when its new does its own damage from a bowling POV. Conventional wisdom is to keep it up and preserve the shine. If he doesn't fall to the leg trap you've likely done yourself a disservice.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Ok I havent seen the match but did Sehwag get out to a short delivery in this test match??
Yes Sehwag might be a little vulnerable against something over chest height at good pace but do Indian pitches offer that sort of bounce to bowlers? Johnson is not a 95 mph+ bowler, nor does Indian pitches give him that bounce.
If this was Perth, this might have worked.
Yes Sehwag might be a little vulnerable against something over chest height at good pace but do Indian pitches offer that sort of bounce to bowlers? Johnson is not a 95 mph+ bowler, nor does Indian pitches give him that bounce.
If this was Perth, this might have worked.
Smudge
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India 55/4 (17.0 ov, SR Tendulkar 10*, Z Khan 5*, MG Johnson 0/11) - Stumps | Live Scorecard | Cricinfo.com
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
oh well I use cricinfo just for the scores...dont have time to read the commentary all the time..I am happy to trust another obscure site called cricket web where obscure members like Voltman are happy to provide the answers
Anyway..I am not surprised because anything over chest height...I can see Sehwag being vulnerable to that..I just didnt think Indian pitches would offer that kind of bounce to bowlers..They did.
Anyway..I am not surprised because anything over chest height...I can see Sehwag being vulnerable to that..I just didnt think Indian pitches would offer that kind of bounce to bowlers..They did.
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Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
Leading edge..bad shot.. And he did manage to get 60 runs..so not really a failure either.
Look if it was so easy, that you bowl short and Sehwag is a walking wicket...dont you think other bowlers would have exploited it by now? He has two triple centuries, one against Steyn and one against Akhtar.
I saw that knock against Akhtar and he managed to cut Akhtar and Sami (both bowling over 90 mph) over third man for sixes.
Look if it was so easy, that you bowl short and Sehwag is a walking wicket...dont you think other bowlers would have exploited it by now? He has two triple centuries, one against Steyn and one against Akhtar.
I saw that knock against Akhtar and he managed to cut Akhtar and Sami (both bowling over 90 mph) over third man for sixes.
Smudge
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Remind me never to help you again.oh well I use cricinfo just for the scores...dont have time to read the commentary all the time..I am happy to trust another obscure site called cricket web where obscure members like Voltman are happy to provide the answers
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Jono
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Yeah definitely. I do not believe the first innings dismissal was a good example of the short ball working on Sehwag at all.
I stated earlier that short and at the body is definitely the best way to get Sehwag out. So not denying that. But the first innings is not a good example of that imo. Sehwag just turned his bat early. He'll hit short balls that don't get up like that most of the time to the boundary.
Burgey
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Black Warrior, is your avatar a Ray Crooke painting?
/relevant.
I don't think anyone is saying it makes him a walking wicket. They're saying it's a way to tie him down and limit his destructiveness which in turn leads to him getting himself out. It may not even be the short ball that gets him - see, for example, the first innings. But absent the attack at his body, he may well not have tried to turn so wide a ball to leg, rather he may have hit it to the off side, like he does so many others.
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vic_orthdox
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Now, I only saw it a couple of times a few days ago, but when you look at Sehwag's dismissal in the first innings, he plays it like a short ball. Yeah, it doesn't get up, but he's jumping to play it, which means that he isn't as perfectly still as what he is when the ball is outside off stump. As soon as his eyes start moving, he's going to be more vulnerable.
That's the reason for bowling short and keeping him up tight, because he jumps to play the ball - trying to work it square leg or finer for a single - rather than stepping inside it, as he prefers to stay leg-side of the ball so that he can slay it through the off-side. He won't be as balanced playing the shot and he can't really generate any power.
That's the reason for bowling short and keeping him up tight, because he jumps to play the ball - trying to work it square leg or finer for a single - rather than stepping inside it, as he prefers to stay leg-side of the ball so that he can slay it through the off-side. He won't be as balanced playing the shot and he can't really generate any power.
andyc
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Haha yeah, who would have expected people to analyse Sehwag's dismissals in a thread about how to dismiss Sehwag.
Kylez
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