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Hinds and Smith in confrontation
- Thread starter Richard
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honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
It could be........ Either way, there must have been some involvement from Smith.... Hinds has been around for a lot longer than Smith and has never been involved in such issues, but we all already know Smith's track record... And his statement now seems extremely absurd to me..... He wants a public apology from Dwayne Bravo.... I agree with Mike Holding here.. Why a public apology? AFAIC, Bravo didn't even go public with any allegations about Smith. He probably said something to Hinds about what Smith told him and Hinds may have taken offence to that but really, I don't see why Bravo should issue a public apology for this. If anything, this only makes me suspect Smith more. If he had wanted a private "I am sorry about the misunderstanding" from Bravo, that would have been more like it.Richard said:
Right arm fast
State Vice-Captain
i just read in chris cairns book about how hinds went nuts after a game and tried to hit vettroi with his bat ect.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Would you like to be publically known as a racist when you're not? (There's no proof that Smith made any racist remarks, and thus he's innocent until there's some facts to prove he did). Granted Bravo didn't go public with these allegations, but it was leaked to the media anyway. Smith may have past impish behaviour on field, but there's nothing to suggest he made any such comments, and I think if nothing of the sort was said Bravo should come out and state it publically.honestbharani said:
The reason it shouldn't be done behind closed doors is because the issue is now public, and racism in cricket is a public issue. If Bravo comes out and publically states Smith said nothing of the sort, which I assume to be the case, then the situation (the racist remarks, not necessarily the behaviour on field by the players) is sorted.
jot1
State Vice-Captain
According to sources in the West Indies Smith said to Bravo something like "What are you slack f***ckers trying to do? The series is over now you all want to score tons. " Hinds apparently heard "black f**ckers". He presumed Smith was making a derogatory racist remark to Bravo and blew his top. I don't know how true this is but apparently it comes directly from someone quite high in the Windies cricket hierarchy.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Sounds pretty unfortunate for both parties.jot1 said:
Smith's comment was pretty unsavoury, but I'm sure worse is said on cricket pitches every day. I guess the trouble is that Smith has a pretty low reputation generally so is unlikely to garner too much sympathy. I have to say I've taken against him, but there is a world of difference between being a bit of a blow-hard & being a racist.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Because of what jot said - it's been suggested, whether through fault of Bravo or not, that he's a racist in public. While I think he's got the wrong man if things happened the way this high-in-West Indian-cricket-hierachy chap thinks, I still think he's totally justified in wanting a public apology - just from Hinds rather than Bravo.honestbharani said:
Because no-one should be labelled a racist when they're not.
Neil Pickup
Cricket Web Moderator
Langeveldt
Soutie
Well that adds a different perspective for me.. Smith goes down a notch in my book, as does anyone who indulges in verbal crap on the field.. Yes, including Allan Donald..jot1 said:
You reap what you sow, he should have kept his mouth shut..
)If it has been implied that Smith made racist remarks and there is no evidence to support such a claim, then a public apology should be made.
A charge of racism is extremely serious and can have far-reaching effects.
Personally, I dont think that you have to be Nostradamus to work out that Bravo, etc would have copped slighly more than "slack ****ers" during the course of an innings of 700-plus. That being said, unless it was of a racist variety, it should remain where it started - on the field.
A charge of racism is extremely serious and can have far-reaching effects.
Personally, I dont think that you have to be Nostradamus to work out that Bravo, etc would have copped slighly more than "slack ****ers" during the course of an innings of 700-plus. That being said, unless it was of a racist variety, it should remain where it started - on the field.
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
jots recollection of events reminds me of a story in the caribbean. allan border was facing joel garner, and "big bird" dug one in short and rapped border on the gloves. as border shook his hand, he said "you big *******" under hsi breath, which desmond haynes, fieliding in his customary positioin of short let, heard as "you black *******". haynes went up to garner at the top of his mark and told him what border had supposedly said, and garner bowled a very very hostile spell, as you can imagine.
after the game, garner and haynes confronted ab about it, things were sorted out when ab said what he truly said, and luckily no1 was hurt (i.e. border
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after the game, garner and haynes confronted ab about it, things were sorted out when ab said what he truly said, and luckily no1 was hurt (i.e. border
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