weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Is it a mistake or you don't rate Kallis at all?
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Greatest cricketers since 1980
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weldone
Hall of Fame Member
True. That's why keeping all 9 of them at level 1 seems to be a better option to me.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
I said 'at least' those 8...Those two are worth a loud shout too, no doubt.
kingkallis
International Coach
Teja.
Global Moderator
Border criminally underrated here IMHO.
Even Wisden has him as the fifth greatest Batsman of all-time.
Wisden's List
1. Donald Bradman
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Viv Richards
4. Garry Sobers
5. Allan Border
My Top five would be :-
1. Donald Bradman
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Jack Hobbs
4. Garry Sobers
5. Allan Border
Top five after 1980 would be:-
1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Allan Border
3. Sunil Gavaskar
4. Ricky Ponting
5. Brian Lara
Even Wisden has him as the fifth greatest Batsman of all-time.
Wisden's List
1. Donald Bradman
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Viv Richards
4. Garry Sobers
5. Allan Border
My Top five would be :-
1. Donald Bradman
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Jack Hobbs
4. Garry Sobers
5. Allan Border
Top five after 1980 would be:-
1. Sachin Tendulkar
2. Allan Border
3. Sunil Gavaskar
4. Ricky Ponting
5. Brian Lara
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Himannv
International Coach
No Viv?
Teja.
Global Moderator
Viv = 6th for me. Can see why people wouldn't agree, but yeah always felt Viv was a little overrated and Greenidge and Lloyd more than a little underrated.
EDIT:-As a Test Batsman of course, As an ODI Batsman, Viv is, far and away, the greatest ever IMHO.
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Furball
Evil Scotsman
Hah. Absolutely no way that Ponting deserves to be in front of Border.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Whoops he was supposed to be in tier 3 I think I accidentally deleted him.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Maybe 5 years ago, but I think most people consider Ponting ahead of Border. Different batsmen, with different styles and different careers though.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I think Sachin and Lara > Border and the rest..
And yes, I think Lara is still better than Sachin in tests.
And there is no way Hobbs is < Sachin as a test batsman either. And it will show up if Wisden were to do the lists NOW...
Teja.
Global Moderator
It isn't really that objective ya' know, opinions and all that.
Teja.
Global Moderator
It's either because everyone here is biased or because of the simple fact that Pollock and Barrington played their cricket in the 50s and the 60s and the title of the Thread is 'Greatest Cricketers since 1980'.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
Or Walter Hammond or Leonard Hutton or George Headley or Barry Richards...
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Ponting 5 years ago (2006) had a better reputation than he does now. Wrongly IMO, but it's how fickle fans, and even experts, are.
There were articles about him being comfortably 2nd to Bradman in Australia. Not sure that is as clear cut to many people with his average falling from 60 to 55.
It's stupid, because what he accomplished from the beginning of his career to 2006 haven't changed. Just saying that the general consensus has changed.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
get it totally.. But I meant the ranking of guys in between.. For me, Lara and Sachin are so close that I can't even imagine how there can be a batsman between them in the ratings.. I understand you think Ponting is better than Lara, and I won't necessarily say it is a daft opinion, although for me, he is CLEARLY better.. But I was talkign about blokes like Hobbs being rated higher by you.. Based on accounts, I can't see how he can be considered as better than one of Lara/Sachin and not better than the other. For me, he is better than both or worse than both. Again, just my opinion, juz surprised about your rating, that is all..
And also, the Wisden bit was to point out it happened during Sachin's amazing first peak.. After which his legacy did come down somewhat, even though he has been Godly in the last 3 years.. And thank God for that, as it has coincided with our team overall getting a little better and this has helped us so much to become #1 in the world.
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