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Dude must have amazing lungs.
Not having that. He got paid to have his foty taken wearing Nike shoes, not lead a squeaky-clean lifestyle til the end of time.Respectfully disagree here.
When they accept millions of dollars to make ads like these you are putting yourself out to be a role model. You're talking about overcoming the odds, and working hard etc. Those are good qualities.
I don't really care about Phelps smoking some marijuana, and I'm obviously not a parent as well. But I do sympathise with the reasoned parents who are concerned that a guy that is being paraded around as an American hero is doing recreational drugs at a college party.
The buck falls on the parent to teach and discipline their kids, and make them understand that what they see their favourite players/stars doing on TV isn't always advisable, but it'd help if the athlete (and again, not Phelps in particular) behaved well.
Its not like Mike Tyson or anything, where everyone knows he's a jackass, and his media endorsements showed him off as a crazy mofo who beats the living pulp out of people, but is cool.
However advertising campaigns like the Adidas "Impossible is Nothing" commercials send a message of "look up to these guys, look what they did, and you can do it too." The minute you sign the dotted line to be on these types of ads, you are held accountable to your actions.
No, you missed the point.Not having that. He got paid to have his foty taken wearing Nike shoes, not lead a squeaky-clean lifestyle til the end of time.
I guess it just comes down to the fact that i consider smoking weed the minorest of minor offenses. Plenty of people have the odd joint (myself not included) and i consider it their business. I have a bit of sympathy with someone like Phelps who can't do something so insignificant without making news and having a load of melty middle-aged women whine at him.No, you missed the point.
Have a photo of yourself wearing Nike shoes, but then don't sign on the dotted line if you're going to talk about overcoming adversity etc. You are saying, I am a role model, look up to me.
I distinctly differentiated that from simply being on an ad and saying Nike shoes make me jump higher. I made clear I wasn't exactly referring to Phelps in particular, as I said marijuana is meh to me.
But if instead of marijuana, if you replace that with a pub fight (or let's say, beating the **** out of a DJ, Steven Gerrard style), then you are contradicting what you are portraying on your ads.
I'm hardly someone who goes nuts when a celebrity star is caught drinking or something, but let's not be fan boys here and wash their hands clean of any wrongdoing, yet allow them a ridiculous amount of money to talk about how their story can be followed and their dream lived for many kids around the world.
No, you missed the point.
Have a photo of yourself wearing Nike shoes and then go smoke a bong... I don't care. But don't sign on the dotted line if you're going to talk about overcoming adversity, having a great character etc. You are saying (or rather the company is paying you to say) "I am a role model, look up to me"
I distinctly differentiated that from simply being on an ad and saying Nike shoes make me jump higher. I made clear I wasn't exactly referring to Phelps in particular, as I said marijuana is meh to me.
But if instead of marijuana, if you replace that with a pub fight (or let's say, beating the **** out of a DJ, Steven Gerrard style), then you are contradicting what you are portraying on your ads.
I'm hardly someone who goes nuts when a celebrity star is caught drinking or something, but let's not be fan boys here and wash their hands clean of any wrongdoing, yet allow them a ridiculous amount of money to talk about how their story can be followed and their dream lived for many kids around the world.
Okay I'll stop here, because the point I'm arguing is obviously different to the thread at hand, which is basically about Phelps and this particular incident.Because the media throws forward a picture of a guy smoking pot, you get all high and mighty when your next door neighbour and yourself might just have done it yourself last night. If you didn't I am sorry for the assumption, I just mean, superstars are human and stories are sold by the media and then they are waiting for them to do something for them to talk about.
People though of Winehouse as an endearing yet tragic drug story who had incredible talent as a musician.Amy Winehouse, in the beginning people embraced her, now they hate her as if she is some poisonous venom that is corrupting the world, when in all seriousness who cares what she is doing if she is a musician.
Crankin'
? Haven't seen or heard about that one. Could someone explain?People though of Winehouse as an endearing yet tragic drug story who had incredible talent as a musician.
It's when people saw the racist video and an assortment of other ****ed up misdemeanours that they really started turning on her. Personally just feel bad for her, so many assholes who surround her all milking it for all it's worth instead of trying to help her. Properly screwed up story and miles different to sportsmen choofing or snorting cola once in a while at parties.
Amy Winehouse Apologizes For Racist Video? Haven't seen or heard about that one. Could someone explain?
Ta. Had somehow slipped under the radar. Classy girl, tho.
Well, it is not the athlete's fault though, if the world starts looking upto them, is it ? Just because someone smoked weed doesn't mean he/she didn't overcome all the adversity. As for the character stuff, yeah he showed poor judgement, but I dont understand how one such error negates all the hard work he has done.No, you missed the point.
Have a photo of yourself wearing Nike shoes and then go smoke a bong... I don't care. But don't sign on the dotted line if you're going to talk about overcoming adversity, having a great character etc. You are saying (or rather the company is paying you to say) "I am a role model, look up to me"
I distinctly differentiated that from simply being on an ad and saying Nike shoes make me jump higher. I made clear I wasn't exactly referring to Phelps in particular, as I said marijuana is meh to me.
But if instead of marijuana, if you replace that with a pub fight (or let's say, beating the **** out of a DJ, Steven Gerrard style), then you are contradicting what you are portraying on your ads.
I'm hardly someone who goes nuts when a celebrity star is caught drinking or something, but let's not be fan boys here and wash their hands clean of any wrongdoing, yet allow them a ridiculous amount of money to talk about how their story can be followed and their dream lived for many kids around the world.