Arachnodouche
International Captain
KulCha won us a heap of games before they ran into Eng at the WC didn't they? Might have been earlier but they did present a unique threat in ODIs until it stopped working.
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3rd ODI at Canberra, 2 Dec 2020
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honestbharani
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I thought it stopped working even in the 2018 tour of England. We just did not wake up to it early enough. They really lack variety and just like Ash and Jaddu, have literally no answers when faced with a no holds barred attack from the batting side. And I think the retirement of MSD has had a HUGE impact on the spinners overall, and especially those two. He was always giving them tips on lines and lengths to bowl to each batsman, whether the batsman was preparing to attack them etc etc. I don't think Rahul or Pant were able to do that, DK was ok but no MSD and the results show that. And once their bowling starts being taken apart, you can clearly see what liabilities they are as cricketers.
Hopefully for our next ODI series, we try a XI like this:
Dhawan (on notice and should be told explicitly to play more aggressively to complement Rohit, none of the old 45/0 in 10 overs BS)
Rohit (vc)
Virat (c)
Shreyas
Rahul (wk)
Jadeja
Hardik
Sundar/Tewatia
Bhuvi
Shami
Bumrah
We can have Saini as the like for like replacement for Bumrah and Shardul as the like for like for Shami, Chahar as like for like for Bhuvi. Rest kinda pick themselves and we will at least have 6 bowling options plus hopefully Shreyas, Virat and Rohit bowl more in the nets and we are prepared for any eventuality on the field.
mr_mister
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Great to see Maxi in such nick. Truly thought he was done after his WC flop but hes averaged 70 striking @ 140 in his 6 digs since
Still though, he'd got it down to a run a ball and seemingly his ADHD wouldn't let him do it in singles. I guess once you start swinging for the fences its not easy to turn the tap off
Still though, he'd got it down to a run a ball and seemingly his ADHD wouldn't let him do it in singles. I guess once you start swinging for the fences its not easy to turn the tap off
ankitj
Hall of Fame Member
They played a bunch of games together in world cup too until the game against England. They never played together since that game. I have been on KulCha bandwagon for long but I do now think that Chahal needs to rediscover his game and needs to be sent back to domestic cricket.
duffer
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Teams are picking Kuldeep out of the hand these days, Chahal is just bowling tripe now.
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
17-18 after the Champions Trophy and before WC they did well in various JAMODIs
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
The 2 spinners did very well in NZ in early 2019 when India thrashed us in the ODI series (4-1). The only game we won was the one Boult bowled them for 90.
the big bambino
International Captain
It was a strange selection by Australia. We went in a batsman short and in doing so managed to weaken the bowling as well.
Burgey
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Surely Iyer has a line through him after this series? He's inept
Arachnodouche
International Captain
Watching the highlights, Kohli is **** at judging reviews from the other end.
Don't think Gill is cut out for limited overs cricket either. Serious pacing issues at the IPL and practically non-existent offside play. Think he might go OK in Tests eventually because he's great off his legs and has alright technique otherwise.
Hope Pandya sticks around for the Tests, even if he's only going to bat.
Don't think Gill is cut out for limited overs cricket either. Serious pacing issues at the IPL and practically non-existent offside play. Think he might go OK in Tests eventually because he's great off his legs and has alright technique otherwise.
Hope Pandya sticks around for the Tests, even if he's only going to bat.
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honestbharani
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No worse than Green, really. He will be ok. He is more Yuvi than Raina against the short ball, so he is fine for LO cricket.
Burgey
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Lol how so? Green has played one game and didn't **** himself when it got above waist height.
honestbharani
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Not gonna have the worn out debate here but Shreyas was more indecisive than unable when it comes to playing the short ball. Like I said, he will be fine. We will see.
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
Not sure why all this Iyer hate here. He has only played 3 games in Australia and the first 2 games there was scoreboard pressure. Most players from sub continent tend to struggle when they encounter bouncy pitches for the first time. Kohli, VVS, Dravid all went through torrid phases in down under initially. He has looked quality in his international career so far and has the game to succeed at the highest level. He will improve. Deserves more opportunities.
Daemon
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tbf Green’s waist is higher than Iyer’s head
Spark
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Being indecisive is tantamount to being unable to play the short ball.
I didn't actually see his dismissal as I went to get food, but what I saw wasn't impressive. He looked totally planted at the crease, had no real footwork at all even against good length deliveries. He was better against spin but honestly not that much better, all of the Indian bats except Kohli were really trying to hit the ball too hard rather than being nimble on their feet and working the angles/pace of the ball. I've not put too much stock into the "IPL is ruining techniques" thing but at least when it comes to this generation of Indian LO bats there might be something to that; this is clearly a generation of batsmen whose principal focus has been to practice hitting the ball as hard as they can through the line, and it showed when they had to display more touch and game understanding instead. Pandya at least played straight, the rest looked aesthetically pleasing only at a superficial level as they picked out fielders over and over again.
Green looked nervous as **** for his first 20 balls or so but it was actually a bit of a shame that he holed out when he did, he was starting to look very good at the crease. A bit Matthew Hayden-y with respect to planting on the front foot, but once his head stopped spinning he looked technically assured and decisive.