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Which players do you think have stats that make them out to be much better/worse than they actually are?
All of the above seem about right to me.Which players do you think have stats that make them out to be much better/worse than they actually are?
Sorry I have to laugh whenever I see an adult who thinks not outs somehow magically boost your averages.Hussey's 50+ average in both forms- His test average is on the way down. He is a finisher in ODIs and is boosted by not outs.
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But they do?Sorry I have to laugh whenever I see an adult who thinks not outs somehow magically boost your averages.
Nah, he's right. Getting out causes your average to fall. Scoring runs causes it to rise.But they do?
They do boost your averages. In ODi's Hussey's batting average is 54.52, his average per innings is 35.84. Then his Test not outs raise his average from 46.01 to 53.04.Sorry I have to laugh whenever I see an adult who thinks not outs somehow magically boost your averages.
Should agree with that. Then again lara is at his best generally against great bowling and good against normal bowling. Player of lara's ability averaging same as jaya,MoYO etc is a travesty. But he had a better avg than richards,gavskar et al. So from that POV it seems fair enough.Brian lara's average of 52.89 is far less than it should have been mainly because-
1-Less number of not outs(only 6)
2-He faced the worlds best attack of all the other top 7 teams and played only 4 tests versus zim and ban combined.
3-Unluckiest in terms of umpiring decisions i.e (number of times he was given out when he was not out - number of times he was given not out when he was out)
Yeah forgot Samaraweera, he shouldn't be averaging even 45. Laxman is all class bat but very inconsistent; Mark Waugh was very much the same. I think their stats indicate that. You're right on the money about Warne and Murali. Without Zim/Bang, Murali has 616 wickets against Warne's 685!All of the above seem about right to me.
Today namely- Thilan Thusara Samaraweera
As mentioned on another thread, Mark Waugh's test batting average misleads as to how good a player he was, or at least could be.
I also wondered why Laxman's average lingered around the 43 mark for so long when he was clearly a masterful player on his day, against the very best as well.
Any batsman whose average is boosted by a very high % of "not outs". Steve Waugh being an example. Imran Khan when you compare his record with Ian Botham also benefitted through this.
Murali' stats are slightly distored by Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, he is closer to Warne average and strike rate wise when you remove wickets against them.
I think Jayasuriya averages 40 something not 50+Should agree with that. Then again lara is at his best generally against great bowling and good against normal bowling. Player of lara's ability averaging same as jaya,MoYO etc is a travesty. But he had a better avg than richards,gavskar et al. So from that POV it seems fair enough.
His talking about Jayawardene.I think Jayasuriya averages 40 something not 50+
Agree with most of your points except the "boosted by not outs" argument. It is to Hussey's credit that he remains unbeaten, isn't it?From your list-
Gambhir's 55+ batting average- He is young and they will it will even out to the late 40s I am guessing.
Yousuf's 53+ batting average- About right
Jayawardene's 52+ batting average- Recognises he can put a massive score on when he gets in.
Sehwags 53+ batting average- Love him, well deserved.
Hussey's 50+ average in both forms- His test average is on the way down. He is a finisher in ODIs and is boosted by not outs.
Younis Khan's 50+ average- Very good player
Steyn's bowling stats- Very good player
Asif's bowling stats- Not time enough to tell yet.
Broad's bowling stats- See my previous post.
My badHis talking about Jayawardene.