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    Dale Steyn -Greatest of All Time

    Long time lurker, new poster. This revelation today got me actually posting. Dale Steyn has always been my favourite cricketers and an undisputed ATG. That said, when I was actually looking at his statistics today -= the average, the strike rate and the context of when it was achieved (in a massively batting friendly era), not to mention the fact that he is head and shoulders above his peers, a case could be made that he is statistically the greatest pace bowler of all time, and that surprised me.

    In my view, I rank him fourth - after Marshall, Ambrose and Mcgrath - but even that seems far above how he is generally viewed.

    Thoughts?

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    Top 5 with Marshall, McGrath, Ambrose, Hadlee
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkallis View Post
    Top 5 with Marshall, McGrath, Ambrose, Hadlee
    Sounds about right.
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    SF Barnes? Lindwall? Tyson? Davidson?
    Trueman? Lillee? Holding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma1978 View Post
    Long time lurker, new poster. This revelation today got me actually posting. Dale Steyn has always been my favourite cricketers and an undisputed ATG. That said, when I was actually looking at his statistics today -= the average, the strike rate and the context of when it was achieved (in a massively batting friendly era), not to mention the fact that he is head and shoulders above his peers, a case could be made that he is statistically the greatest pace bowler of all time, and that surprised me.

    In my view, I rank him fourth - after Marshall, Ambrose and Mcgrath - but even that seems far above how he is generally viewed.

    Thoughts?
    Yes, it isn't far fetched to rank him alongside those greats
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Would he count as better than Donald and Pollock?

    Certainly top 20 but not sure he sneaks into the top 10,

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    To be considered the GOAT, imo he needs to be definably better than Marshall. I'm not sure he is that.

    He's a phenomenal bowler, great skills and great to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuller Pilch View Post
    SF Barnes? Lindwall? Tyson? Davidson?
    Trueman? Lillee? Holding?
    Correct. There were quicks prior to the modern era.
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    I don't think he's necessarily in the top five South Africans let alone of all comers - I'd certainly put him behind Alan Donald and Mike Procter - I'd bracket him with Neil Adcock, Peter Pollock, Shaun Pollock, Peter Heine and big Vern
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    These fan boy threads are really funny. I voted Top 20 but not entirely sure he’s that high.

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    This is silly, Dale Steyn is easily in the top ten of all time. Just a question of where.

    My top 10 btw (no order) :

    MM
    McGrath
    Hadlee
    Imran
    Steyn
    Donald
    Wasim
    Amby
    Trueman
    Lillee
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    If you are pegging it at the colour television era maybe? What about guys like Barnes, Spofforth, Larwood, Tyson, Lindwall, Davidson?

    Further, what about Jimmy Anderson (sorry!)?
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    I dont consider barnes a seamer. Tyson spofforth didnt play enough (i know different times). Davidson has a case as does Lindwall but then so do garner, holding, waqar, pollock etc. At the end of the day you have to go with gut, what others say , stats etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    If you are pegging it at the colour television era maybe? What about guys like Barnes, Spofforth, Larwood, Tyson, Lindwall, Davidson?

    Further, what about Jimmy Anderson (sorry!)?
    By most accounts Barnes wasnt quick e.g. Bradman rated O'Reilly higher as Barnes didnt have a googly

    Impossible to rate Spofforth

    Larwood ranks lower on basis of longevity as does Tyson

    Many experts rank Lindwall below Lillee whom I rate below McGrath

    I seriously doubt that Davidson was as good as Akram
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