Cricket Betting Site Betway
Page 1 of 13 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 187
Like Tree116Likes

Thread: Sir Garry v Sachin

  1. #1
    Cricket Web: All-Time Legend fredfertang's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Europe, on the outside looking in
    Posts
    20,085

    Sir Garry v Sachin

    THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A COMPARISON OF THEIR CRICKETING ABILITIES

    Last week I got chatting to a mate of a mate and dicovered that we had a love of cricket in common. Eventually the conversation got round to the subject of the first Test we ever went to - he was a few years older than me and his was the Lord's Test against West Indies in 1966. West Indies had won the first Test and he went up on the Monday, the fourth day - England had their noses in front, but not by a huge distance - cricinfo confirms that England had a first innings lead of 86 and the WIndies were 18-1

    He was in that part of the ground where all the West Indies supporters were, and these were the days when a whole lot of them would turn up at the Tests and turn their part of the ground into a calypso party. He said they were incredibly knowledgeable and good natured, even though they lost a couple of quick wickets and then a fourth at 91 when Seymour Nurse went. That brought Sobers to the crease and he said the change in the crowd was unbelievable - absolute adulation for the great man (to a man they referred to him simply as "The King") and great tension as the game was slipping away, and it slipped further moments later when Rohan Kanhai was out - anyone who looks at the scorecard will see that my new mate hit the jackpot and that Sobers batted for the rest of the day with David Holford and was well past his century by the close

    Despite seeing a Sobers century the abiding memory for the bloke was the crowd and their attitude to their "King" - total reverence and unswerving loyalty and on those occasions when Sobers turned to them with an acknowledgment they went into an absolute frenzy. Lucky bastard went back the next day too and saw Sobers bat on and then England save the game courtesy of a famous century from Ollie Milburn - Hall and Griffith made some early inroads, but the West Indies fans, whilst celebrating their deeds in typically noisy fashion, treated them as mere mortals, unlike their King, who was still treated in the same way as the previous day whenever he went near the ball

    So my question is, was Sachin treated in the same way?

  2. #2
    Hall of Fame Member harsh.ag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    India
    Posts
    18,014
    Hell yeah, minus the knowledgeable and good-natured bit.
    ~ Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference ~

  3. #3
    Cricketer Of The Year kingkallis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    India
    Posts
    9,223
    You nailed it Harsh. I found more than 70% cricket followers to be idiots and knew nothing about the game. When you ask them a question about the sports they'll say - Oh I just want us to win the game and thats why I follow it. WTF? They know nothing about other legends.

    But yes, love for Sachin is just unbelievable! People would go crazy over it. I was there in his last game and people around me were crying and sobbing and what not?
    CricZo XI - Draft Dashboard

    15 Golds | 14 Silvers

    Scorecard Draft - 2010 | Alphabetical Draft - 2011 | The Eras Draft - 2014 | All Time Australia Draft - 2016 | All England Draft - 2016 | Draft By Nation - 2016 | Dual 00-10 Draft - 2017 | Dual 80-90 Draft - 2017 | Silent Auction Draft - 2018 | We are NOT #1 - 2018 | Centuries Draft - 2018 | ODI Partnership Draft - 2018 | Chain Draft - 2018

    All Time Trading Game - 2016 | ICC Sim League VI - 2018

  4. #4
    Cricketer Of The Year Contra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    8,369
    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.ag View Post
    Hell yeah, minus the knowledgeable and good-natured bit.
    Nah, Indian fans can be both knowledgeable and good natured, they just choose not to show it often enough lol.

    Anyways yeah love for Sachin most people have is something else. There are people who don't like cricket but they love Sachin, very few other personalities can transcendent beyond what they are known for.
    Last edited by Contra; 24-01-2015 at 09:50 AM.


  5. #5
    International Regular anil1405's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    India
    Posts
    3,057
    Quote Originally Posted by Contra View Post
    Nah, Indian fans can be both knowledgeable and good natured, they just choose not to show it often enough lol.
    Knowledgeable fans are outnumbered by casual fans.

  6. #6
    The Tiger King smalishah84's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    IL
    Posts
    29,674
    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A COMPARISON OF THEIR CRICKETING ABILITIES

    Last week I got chatting to a mate of a mate and dicovered that we had a love of cricket in common. Eventually the conversation got round to the subject of the first Test we ever went to - he was a few years older than me and his was the Lord's Test against West Indies in 1966. West Indies had won the first Test and he went up on the Monday, the fourth day - England had their noses in front, but not by a huge distance - cricinfo confirms that England had a first innings lead of 86 and the WIndies were 18-1

    He was in that part of the ground where all the West Indies supporters were, and these were the days when a whole lot of them would turn up at the Tests and turn their part of the ground into a calypso party. He said they were incredibly knowledgeable and good natured, even though they lost a couple of quick wickets and then a fourth at 91 when Seymour Nurse went. That brought Sobers to the crease and he said the change in the crowd was unbelievable - absolute adulation for the great man (to a man they referred to him simply as "The King") and great tension as the game was slipping away, and it slipped further moments later when Rohan Kanhai was out - anyone who looks at the scorecard will see that my new mate hit the jackpot and that Sobers batted for the rest of the day with David Holford and was well past his century by the close

    Despite seeing a Sobers century the abiding memory for the bloke was the crowd and their attitude to their "King" - total reverence and unswerving loyalty and on those occasions when Sobers turned to them with an acknowledgment they went into an absolute frenzy. Lucky bastard went back the next day too and saw Sobers bat on and then England save the game courtesy of a famous century from Ollie Milburn - Hall and Griffith made some early inroads, but the West Indies fans, whilst celebrating their deeds in typically noisy fashion, treated them as mere mortals, unlike their King, who was still treated in the same way as the previous day whenever he went near the ball

    So my question is, was Sachin treated in the same way?
    oh yes, I can tell that without even being Indian (having lived abroad i know a fair few though). The level of adulation for Tendulkar is at another level.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

    Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta

  7. #7
    International Debutant Cruxdude's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,719
    Ohh yeah! As everybody says India is so diverse and Sachin is probably one of a very few who get that sort of adulation all over the country. Still remember the IPL inauguration in Bangalore and the roar when Sachin came up to sign some spirit of cricket thing was just unbelievable dwarfing anything the others got including the home player Dravid. And as he mentioned in his final speech, the Sachin..Sachin..chants define my cricket matching experience.

  8. #8
    Hall of Fame Member harsh.ag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    India
    Posts
    18,014
    Oh the number of times we have done "Sachin...! Sachin....!" <nostalgia smiley>

  9. #9
    International Captain indiaholic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    India
    Posts
    5,343
    He was easily the most popular man in the country. Nobody came close when it came to universal adulation, and this is in a country that builds temples to it's movie stars.

    And people built up this weird fascination for him that transcended the sport. My mum never followed cricket but you could damned well be sure that she would be watching the game if it was Tendulkar batting during an ODI.

  10. #10
    The artist formerly known as Monk Red Hill's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    12,113
    Yeh, but was Sachin as good as Lara?

  11. #11
    The artist formerly known as Monk Red Hill's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    12,113
    Who would be the most adulated players throughout history?

    Sobers
    Sachin
    Viv
    Miller
    Bradman
    Imran
    WG
    Trumper

  12. #12
    International Captain Adders's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Master of the house, keeper of the zoo...
    Posts
    7,108
    Sheer weight of numbers has to give it to Sachin IMO.
    BigBrother likes this.

  13. #13
    The artist formerly known as Monk Red Hill's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    ...
    Posts
    12,113
    That quote about WG being the most recognisable figure in the British Empire is pretty remarkable I reckon.
    watson likes this.

  14. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    9,851
    As a percentage of all contemporary cricket fans, I reckon that WG and Trumper are probably the most adulated in cricketing history.

    I also think that Sober's appeal is more cross-cultural than Tendulkar's whose adoration remains largely within his home country. Don't get me wrong, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching Tendulkar bat, but there is something extra special about the thought of Garry Sobers batting at the SCG.
    Last edited by watson; 24-01-2015 at 04:13 PM.
    kyear2 likes this.

  15. #15
    Cricket, Lovely Cricket Pratters's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Kolkata
    Posts
    29,957
    Oh yes, if there of all things Tendulkar has accomplished in his career, adulation is right at the very top. The crowd keeps chanting 'Sachiiin, Sachiiin' when he went out to bat. Just before he batted, there was an expectation. You could almost feel people not be as sad if the second wicket fell as Tendulkar came out next. As soon as he was out, there was complete hush at a ground, as if some ill omen has just occurred. The real adulation could be felt when he was fielding. People would just cheer as soon as he touched the ball, even as a fielder. Wherever he would stand, the crowd would be constantly cheering him, waiting for him to raise a hand in acknowledgement. As soon as he did, which he did a few times, there were further cheers in the crowd. Kapil had a bit of adulation at the end of his career, Kohli has a bit now. Nothing touches that mark as SRT for Indian fans.

Page 1 of 13 12311 ... LastLast


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Garry Sobers, The Bowler?
    By Teja. in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 210
    Last Post: 29-10-2010, 03:51 AM
  2. Garry Sobers vs Brian Lara?
    By SaeedAnwar in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 08-04-2010, 08:56 PM
  3. Celebrating Sir Garry Sobers - The Bowler
    By Sanz in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 261
    Last Post: 14-08-2008, 08:37 AM
  4. Keith Miller v Sir Garry Sobers
    By Craig in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 460
    Last Post: 27-07-2008, 09:53 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •