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    I think Vaughan will be in the 17. So far he is on 21*. I think 30 runs should get him into the squad.

    The 11 who played in the last Test plus Flintoff, Vaughan, Bell, Rashid, Harmison , Panesar I was reading we might play 3 spinners in the 1st Test. I doubt there will be any change of personnel in the batting department so when we lose a match expect the bowling to change even if the batsmen are culpable.

    I wonder how many players they will use through all 5 Tests.

    01 - 17
    02/03 - 16
    05 - 12
    06/07 -14

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    Could see Bresnan missing out, myself. Been in very ordinary form for Yorks with the ball and was effectively a passenger until the Windies' 2nd innings of the 2nd test. Might be room for Mick then, I suppose.
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    Picking Vaughan in the 17 could only be for the usual nonsensical "his presence may terrify the Aussies" stuff. He has played 8 innings this season and averages 19.57. I'm as disappointed about this as the next man, as I was hoping he'd go well and force his way back in. But he hasn't, so he shouldn't be back in.

    Unless, of course, he can score 150 today.
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    And he's out for 43 (to Whelan). No thank you Mr Vaughan


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    I'd go for:

    Andrew Strauss *
    Alastair Cook
    Ravi Bopara
    Kevin Pietersen
    Paul Collingwood
    Matthew Prior +
    Andrew Flintoff
    Stuart Broad
    Graeme Swann
    Ryan Sidebottom
    James Anderson

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    Tim Ambrose/Steven Davies
    Samit Patel
    Ian Bell
    Adil Rashid
    Stephen Harmison (has decent enough figures in FC games this year)
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    Yeah, not sure why such a big squad is needed. Even bigger than Australia's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Pietersen View Post
    I'd go for:

    Andrew Strauss *
    Alastair Cook
    Ravi Bopara
    Kevin Pietersen
    Paul Collingwood
    Matthew Prior +
    Andrew Flintoff
    Stuart Broad
    Graeme Swann
    Ryan Sidebottom
    James Anderson

    Graham Onions
    Tim Ambrose
    Samit Patel
    Ian Bell
    Adil Rashid
    Stephen Harmison
    That is what I'd go for myself.
    Patel probably won't be in the squad because of fitness etc.
    Would rather have somebody ahead of Harmison but if the only other option is BGresnan he'll have to do.Hoggard ?

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    I considered Hoggard, but Harmison has outperformed him this season. Averages 22 with the ball and is one of the leading wicket-takers in the country. A better option than Bresnan I reckon.

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    It's like Groundhog Day with the long streak of piss tho, isn't it?

    Dire in tests; dropped; takes wickets in county game; recalled; dire in tests; dropped...well you see where I'm going with this.

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    Harmison cannot be recalled unless the ECB monitor his bowling speed with speed guns. The time to find out that his pace is down is not the first morning of the First Test, it's before the squad is chosen.

    If he's bowling at 90+mph then I'd have no problem with him being in the squad. If he's taking cheap county wickets at 78mph then we may as well bring Ian Bell in to open the bowling. At least he can bat and field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    It's like Groundhog Day with the long streak of piss tho, isn't it?

    Dire in tests; dropped; takes wickets in county game; recalled; dire in tests; dropped...well you see where I'm going with this.
    He actually performed very well when he returned to the side last summer. Looked to be bowling with the old Harmison pace and hostility against South Africa, but then that was all forgotten once he'd gone abroad, lost his rhythm and his action and was back to bowling crap. He could definitely be a good option in England, with overs under his belt, he proved that against South Africa last summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Pietersen View Post
    He actually performed very well when he returned to the side last summer. Looked to be bowling with the old Harmison pace and hostility against South Africa, but then that was all forgotten once he'd gone abroad, lost his rhythm and his action and was back to bowling crap. He could definitely be a good option in England, with overs under his belt, he proved that against South Africa last summer.


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    Pothas is eligable isn't he ? Then surely he should be the reserve keeper if one is chosen, given that Prior's position seems relatively safe at the moment so he'd only be needed in the event of an injury, in which case you'd want the best man available irrespective of age (ie Pothas).

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    Yeah, took out British citizenship last year, I think.

    For whatever reason, accident or design, we haven't yet called up anyone who has played for another test nation even when (with Law, Saqlain & maybe even Spearman in ODIs) the temptation must've been there, so his two ODIs for SA might count against him.

    Would have no qualms myself tho, tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdavid View Post
    Pothas is eligable isn't he ? Then surely he should be the reserve keeper if one is chosen, given that Prior's position seems relatively safe at the moment so he'd only be needed in the event of an injury, in which case you'd want the best man available irrespective of age (ie Pothas).
    Pothas should've been picked in 2007, but wasn't. He should've been picked a fair few times recently, but hasn't been.

    For whatever reasons - be it "he's too old", "he's South African", "he's Greek" or whatever, they seem to have decided they're not keen on him and I'd honestly be more surprised to see him picked this summer than Geraint Jones.

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