The Football ATG General Arguing/Discussing Thread

[GIMH]

Could just go with Steven Gerrard tbf.

I get Scholes over him, don't agree but it's tired old ground. Lampard I don't, especially when you've already got Scholes. But hey, it's all about opinions I guess.

 

[GIMH]

Sorry harsh I don't want to harp on but **** it I'm going to. Okay you've now recanted and put Bryan Robson. He's worthy of being in the argument, sure. But you actually thought to put Rio Ferdinand in midfield ahead of Gerrard, Gascoigne, Ince, Hargreaves, Carrick, Platt, Steven, Batty, Barry, Redknapp, Wise, Murphy, Butt, Jenas, Milner, Henderson, Parker, Wilshere, Alli, Dier, Phillips, Rice

Granted some of those names are bang average, but you know what they were? Midfielders. Midfielders who played at a good level domestically, and in some cases won trophies, titles, played countless games for England.

I mean even if DM is your criteria. You stick a centre back there ahead of Paul Ince?

You've ruined my day harsh. Please apologise.

 

[sledger]

Robbo a bit like Keegan. Bit of a hero and a cult figure, but very...er..."satisfactory" as a player.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

In Keegan’s last ever match with England he played Southgate in midfield against Germany. That ruined a few evenings as well.

 

[BoyBrumby]

TBF Keegan was a much better player than manager, low bar as that is.

Only Englishman to win tha Ballon d'Or more than once, I think.

Not that all that many have won it at all. Matthews, Charlton, R and Owen only others off top of my head.

 

[harsh.ag]

Blame your country for not producing a decent DM in three decades @GIMH

Embarrassing, really

 

[Uppercut]

Robbo a bit like Keegan. Bit of a hero and a cult figure, but very...er..."satisfactory" as a player.

Bryan Robson? Never heard this opinion before, always thought he was universally agreed to be brilliant when fit.

EDIT: nor Keegan actually, didn’t he win two Ballon d’Ors playing for Hamburg?

 

[Uppercut]

Blame your country for not producing a decent DM in three decades @GIMH

Embarrassing, really

Tbh the best one was mid-30s Paul Scholes. He’d long since retired from international football though.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Bryan Robson? Never heard this opinion before, always thought he was universally agreed to be brilliant when fit.

A fit Bryan Robson was kinda like Catholic chief rabbis though.

 

[GIMH]

Blame your country for not producing a decent DM in three decades @GIMH

Embarrassing, really

Even though it was not his best position, as if Gerrard wasn't several notches above decent there. As if Paul Ince wasn't top class for a decade. Carrick was decent enough to play for the CL winners. Hargreaves played for Bayern and Man U. James Milner won titles with City and Liverpool.

Utter nonsense.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Gareth Barry criminally underrated.

 

[Furball]

@Pothas you can pick a Brentford XI from around the time Warburton got you to the Championship to present day. Who's in the XI?

 

[Pothas]

What a glorious topic.

Raya

Dalsgaard
Tarkowski
Pinnock
Henry

Norgaard
Dasilva
Sawyers

Jota
Toney
Benrhama


OK so not having Watkins is fairly ridiculous and Jota is at least in part a sentimental pick but Watkins was so much better once he went central and Benrhama really needs to play on the left. I almost picked him over Toney anyway but that would be because of what he has done at Villa. There is also part of me that feels that Maupay was actually the best of them or perhaps I just liked him the most.

The rest was quite a bit easier although a bit harsh on some of the earlier guys like Judge, Pritchard and Forshaw.

I really hope Dasilva's injury is not as bad as rumoured because I want to see him in the Premier League so bad.

 

[Pothas]

Or could use the formation we had at the end of the season and have Toney and Watkins upfront together with Benrhama as a 10. On paper that is better but Benrhama never really did that role....yeah I know nobody else is going to give a **** about any of this.