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T20I draft voting thread

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
All the teams will be in the below post - in the case of my side and Himannv's side the bracketed numbers illustrate the specific overs each bowler would bowl - this may change with tactical matchups/conditions but is illustrative as to the role each bowler would generally have in the 20 overs. Numbers beside players in Anil1405's side represents bowling position. I think the rest is clear but if not happy to clarify for anyone looking to vote.

Please vote for your top 3 teams in order - from the side you think is best to side you think is 3rd best - best side will get 3pts, 2nd best 2pts and 3rd best 1pt. Invite all those who participated as well as those who didn't participate to vote on the draft. To ensure no one is disadvantaged by voting the winner will be based on the side with the highest average points per vote (excluding their own vote).

I think that covers everything, full squads will be below
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
TEAMS


JOJOXI

1. Shane Watson (7)
2. Kumar Sangakarra (wk)
3. Joe Root (c)
4. Yuvraj Singh
5. Jos Buttler
6. Shakib Al Hasan (10,12)
7. Hardik Pandya (15)
8. Imad Wasim (2,4,6,8)
9. Mitchell Starc (1,3,17,19)
10. Lasith Malinga (5,13,18,20)
11. Muttiah Muralitharan (9,11,14,16)


Pretty happy with this side in the end, Starc and Malinga 2 of the best bowlers in the death overs whilst Starc will utilise any new ball swing. Imad Wasim gives us a reliable powerplay bowler and ensures everyone minus Malinga and Murali can bat a bit. Plenty of bowling options with only Sangakarra and Buttler really not capable of bowling and means this side could be flexible if plans don't go to plan. Murali provides a high class spin option to attack in the middle overs. Shakib good enough to bowl 4 overs if the pitch is spinning, Watson a useful option if there is a hint of movement and Pandya can bowl too.

Have a batting lineup with a mix of left handers in the top 9 (Sanga, Yuvraj, Shakib, Wasim and Starc) and right handers and players who can be flexible after the top 3 which is pretty much set in stone, Pandya might come up the order if we are well set in the death overs, Shakib might bat at 4 if we need to repair a really poor start. Sangakarra and Root provide class batting alongside more explosive options in Watson, Yuvraj and Buttler. Shakib a dynamic option at 6 and Hardik can hopefully provide a finishing thrust to our batting innings.




Honest Hunks (HonestBharani)


Gautam Gambhir ©
D'Arcy Short
Suresh Raina
Cameron White (vc)
Rishabh Pant (wk)
Dinesh Karthik
Sam Curran
Dwayne Bravo
Nathan Coulter Nile
Ravi Ashwin
Jasprit Bumrah


8 bowling options and batting till 10. Covers all varieties of bowling and batting and even has a back up keeper. Ideal T20 side really. Attacking bowlers at the bottom 3, 3 slog over specialists and good wrist spinners in White and Short who can also bat in the top 4. Happy with what I could get.




Himannv

Batting

01. David Warner
02. Sanath Jayasuriya
03. Jason Roy
04. Ben Stokes
05. MS Dhoni+*
06. David Miller
07. Keiron Pollard
08. Ravi Jadeja
09. Sunil Narine
10. Brett Lee
11. Trent Boult

Bowling

01. Trent Boult (1, 3, 18, 20)
02. Brett Lee (2, 4, 17, 19)
03. Ben Stokes (5, 7)
04. Ravi Jadeja (10, 12)
05. Keiron Pollard (6, 8)
06. Sunil Narine (9, 11, 13, 15)
07. Sanath Jayasuriya (14, 16)

Notes

- The bowling orders given are not an exact science and can differ depending on match situation and decisions of the captain.
- Batting order can be rejigged to open with Narine or Roy.
- This team bats exceptionally deep (until no 10) and that enabled the selection of an extra bowler.
- Batting order has a nice combination of Anchors, Finishers, and Hitters.
- Bowling attack is nicely balanced with 4 pace options and 3 spin options.




CricZo XI (KingKallis)

Rohit Sharma /
Martin Guptill /
Faf du Plessis /
AB de Villiers /
Andrew Symonds / o
Tilakaratne Dilshan / o
Heinrich Klassen / +
James Faulkner o /
Pat Cummins o
Kagiso Rabada o
Imran Tahir o

- An experienced opening pair in Sharma & Guptill, that can lay a strong platform at decent RR for Faf, AB, Symmo, Dilu and Klassen to come and unleash their wrath on opposition.
- Very strong and capable top & middle order of Faf du Plessis, AB de Villiers, Andrw Symonds, Tilakaratne Dilshan, Heinrich Klassen that can easily help our 70-1 after 8.0 to 210-5 after 20.0.
- A fine batsman and gloveman Klassen joined the team to take off the pressure from World's best T20 batsman, AB!
- Bowling attack lead by Kagiso Rabada & Patrick Cummins, will be well supported by Imran Tahir, James Faulkner, Andrew Symonds & Tilakaratne Dilshan.




Teuton

Brendon McCullum 2000s
KL Rahul 2010s
Ricky Ponting 2000s
Steve Smith 2010s
Eoin Morgan 2000s
Thisara Perera 2010s
Andre Russell 2010s
Shadab Khan 2010s
Mohammad Amir 2000s
Kuldeep Yadav 2010s
Shoaib Akhtar 2000s

McCullum and KL can go big with high aggression. Ponting, Smith and Morgan have all the shots to build and accelerate the innings. Followed by all roundersT Perera and Dre Russ at 6 and 7 who consistently strike at 150+.

I assume Akhtar will deliver a couple of unplayable balls per innings and Mo Amir can keep it tight as well as take wickets. As well as the twin spin attack of Kuldeep and Shadab to continue the wicket taking pressure throughout.




Anil1405


Matthew Hayden
Quinton de Kock +
Kane Williamson *
Shoaib Malik 7
Michael Hussey
Mitchell Marsh 6
Chris Morris 3
Rashid Khan 4
Mitchell Johnson 1
Umar Gul 2
Saeed Ajmal 5

Batting:

- Hayden and de Kock are proven big hitters upfront.
- Williamson and Malik will provide stability in the middle overs while Hussey can do any role that is required right from finding those ones and twos with ease to despatching the ball to boundary if needed.
- Mitch and Morris to finish the innings by smashing the ball all around. So can Rashid and Johnson but with a lower consistency.
- In worst case if the team loses early wickets and situation demands defensive ploy, Williamson and Hussey have proven record of stabilising the situation.

Bowling:

Love having bowlers who can control the game and hence focussed on getting the top ones upfront in the draft.

Here are the strike rates of my bowlers:

Mitchell Johnson - 17.2
Umar Gul - 14.1
Chris Morris - 14.6
Rashid Khan - 12.3 (2 wickets per game)
Saeed Ajmal - 16.8

So the average comes down to 8.1 wickets every game from my 5 bowlers.

- Rashid and Ajmal are two of the best spinners in this format.
- Gul has been a beast in this format
- Morris surprisingly has a very impressive bowling record not just in T20 internationals but all of T20.
- Marsh and Malik to chip in with few overs, if needed, based on match situations and conditions.




BoyBrumby

1) Aaron Finch LHB 2114 runs @ 38.44, SR 154.54
2) Jonny Bairstow+ RHB 834 @ 26.34, SR 137.52
3) Virat Kohli* RHB 2794 @ 50.30, SR 138.25; RM 4 wickets @ 49.50, ER 8.14
4) Kevin Pietersen RHB 1176 @ 37.94, SR 141.52; OB 1 @ 53, ER 10.60
5) J-P Duminy LHB 1934 @ 38.68, SR 126.24; OB 21 @ 28.52, ER 7.76
6) Angelo Mathews RHB 1119 @ 26.64, SR 118.66; RMF 37 @ 31.92, ER 6.93
7) Abdul Razzaq RHB 393 @ 20.68, SR 116.62; RFM 20 @ 19.75, ER 6.99
8) Daniel Vettori LHB 205 @ 12.81, SR 107.89; SLA 38 @ 19.68, ER 5.70
9) Dale Steyn RF 64 @ 18.36, ER 6.95
10) Samuel Badree LB 56 @ 21.07, ER 6.18
11) Lockie Ferguson RF 14 @ 15.86, ER 7.16

Pretty happy with the way it's turned out. Very strong top 4, any of whom could take the game away from the oppo on their own, and a solid engine room to consolidate on any starts the top order gives them.

Good all-weather bowling attack, with 7 serious options and a couple of fall-backs in extremis.

The plan would be for Badree and Steyn to open, with Lockie taking the third over, Steyn the fourth, Ferguson the fifth and Badree coming back for the final over of the power play from the other end.

Middle overs I think it depends on the pitch, if it's spinning I have Vettori's and J-P's slow stuff to stymie the scoring and if there's something in the air or off the deck for the seamers I have Angelo's and Razzaq's wicket to wicket stuff.

Then back to the quick lads at the death.




Fuller Pilch

Chris Gayle
Colin Munro
Babar Azam
Dawid Malan
Corey Anderson
Shahid Afridi
Sarfaraz Ahmed*+
Ashton Agar
Chris Jordan
Shane Bond
Morne Morkel

This side is full of matchwinners. The top 4 is absolutely superb and there are extremely powerful finishers at 5 and 6 with high strike rates. Sarfaraz provides depth at 7 if anything goes wrong and can also be promoted to milk the opposition spinners if required. If Agar and Jordan are needed with the bat they can find the boundary from ball one. Regular scores of 200+ would be expected of a batting lineup as good as this.

With the ball Bond and Morkel are a fearsome new ball pair and Agar can also bowl some spin in the powerplay as well as later on. Afridi is a quality leg spinner, Corey Anderson gives bustling left armers, Jordan is a superb death bowler with slower balls and yorkers, while Munro, Gayle, and Malan can all chip in with an over or two if required. The side will be captained by Sarfaraz who has a very record containing Pakistan in T20s.




mr_mister

Adam Gilchrist +
Chris Lynn
Glen Maxwell
Marlon Samuels
Shimron Hetmyer
Jason Holder
Shaun Pollock
Brad Hogg
Jofra Archer
Yuzvendra Chahal
Glen Mcgrath
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Fuller Pilch - great top 4 - wonder how Malan's career will look in a year or 2 regarding T20Is but certainly an impressive record so far, a bit meh about Anderson although his record is far from awful. Afridi gives you a nice combination of a finisher and someone who can bowl 4 overs. Sarfaraz able to be positive without necessarily hitting big shots all the time too so a handy presence to have. Been able to fit in 5 bowlers who can bowl 4 overs whilst still having a batting lineup that bats deep, the bowling attack is solid if not my favourite bowling attack in the draft, like the idea that Jordan will be mostly held for the death it sounds like reading your write-up too so that's a positive. - 3pts


Anil1405
- Great bowling attack, Morris not the most economical but a wicket taker 34 wkts in 23 T20Is and has probably proven his ball striking ability a bit more in domestic T20s. Other 4 bowling options with great records too - probably partly down to preference but I do like strong bowling attacks quite a bit. Solid batting although better batting lineups elsewhere, think you have a strong batting top 4 although not the finisher that some other sides have to really take you to above par totals. Suspect it would be the bowling winning you a lot of games rather than the batting. - 2pts


BoyBrumby
- Think the side is perhaps lacking a super explosive finisher and would normally eye a side with a spinner with mystery but in spite of that think its a very good team. Attacking batting from the openers who are likely to provide starts of substance, probably the best pick in my mind in Virat Kohli at 3 gives you a solid foundation and someone very good at chasing in particular. Positive batting options at 4 and 5 especially KP and can bat down to 8 comfortably. Like the bowling with Steyn and Ferguson and spin attack in Badree and Vettori in restricting things even if it misses some mystery. Could perhaps have a more established 5th bowling option although think Mathews bowling is underrated and he bowls an average of 13.64 balls a match in T20Is which is decent given he is probably under bowled at times across formats. Would probably utilize Badree more upfront but nonetheless a lot I like about your side. - 1pt



Plenty of good sides in this draft and choosing 3 wasn't easy, for a couple of teams was a bit on the fence about 5th bowling options (and 6th bowling options if lineup was 4 bowlers+batting allrounders). Himannv in particular super unlucky to miss out - loved the destruction your side might be able to cause - just a slight question over Jason Roy if he wasn't yet set at the end of the powerplay and how he might do against spin especially leg spin and mystery spin. Also question whether say an extra specialist bowler who can bat a bit might give more added value to your side then say someone like Miller who batting at 6 could be minimising the number of balls Pollard faces. Perhaps missing a more solid batsman at 3 for more bowler-friendly wickets but nitpicking a bit as I had to look back over the squads with 4 not going into 3.
 

Fuller Pilch

International Vice-Captain
Lots of excellent sides again. It is interesting to see how T20 has developed in the last 15ish years. I will say:

Boy Brumby 3 points
Anil 2 points
JOJO 1 point
 

ankitj

International Coach
Please vote for your top 3 teams in order - from the side you think is best to side you think is 3rd best - best side will get 3pts, 2nd best 2pts and 3rd best 1pt.
This is a good voting scheme. IMO better than just voting for top 3.
 

Himannv

Cricketer Of The Year
Plenty of good sides in this draft and choosing 3 wasn't easy, for a couple of teams was a bit on the fence about 5th bowling options (and 6th bowling options if lineup was 4 bowlers+batting allrounders). Himannv in particular super unlucky to miss out - loved the destruction your side might be able to cause - just a slight question over Jason Roy if he wasn't yet set at the end of the powerplay and how he might do against spin especially leg spin and mystery spin. Also question whether say an extra specialist bowler who can bat a bit might give more added value to your side then say someone like Miller who batting at 6 could be minimising the number of balls Pollard faces. Perhaps missing a more solid batsman at 3 for more bowler-friendly wickets but nitpicking a bit as I had to look back over the squads with 4 not going into 3.
Yeah, I agree about Roy. I wanted to pick him as I think he's a good T20 player and obviously I needed to balance it out with decades. However, I couldn't resist picking Sanath and didn't feel right about playing him at 3. Shot myself in the foot a bit with that pick.

I kind of like Miller at 6 as he doesn't really strike me as a batsman who hangs around much. He either hits it or gets out. Pollard at 6 is a slot too high for me.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Jojo - Hard to see any side being better than this. Absolutely killed it this draft.

Himannv – Bowlers a bit medium level for this draft, including Narine unless he goes back to chucking.

KK - Gun top 4 and last 2, but #s 5 to 9 are rather iffy in this format. Have to see how others stack up.

Teuton - Formidable side, just a bit unsure of Kuldeep and Shoaib Akhtar for this format.

Anil1405 - Very good side but again weak middle to lower middle order IMO.

Brumby – Very good side IMO, second only to Jojo.

FP – Pretty good side, in contention for 3rd best with anil and Teuton.

Mrmr – Maxi at 3 is lol, Holder and Pollock at the pivotal 6 and 7 is even more lol. Not a good T20 side.



So in conclusion, I will go with:

  1. Jojo
  2. Brumby
  3. Teuton
 

Himannv

Cricketer Of The Year
JOJOXI - Good team but I have to wonder why you didn't just pick Mahela instead of Sanga there. Mahela actually opens for T20s and is a better player in this format as an opener so it would have been a much better pick that would have looked more balanced. The bowling is fantastic though with Starc, Malinga, and Murali. Also, I like Buttler in this format.

hb - Good team but perhaps lacking the star power that some other sides have.

kingkallis - Nicely balanced but not sure how Dilshan would go at 6. Also not sure about nos 7 and 8. On their day, Sharma and ABdV will win games for your team. I like the top 5 in general and I think this is an underrated team on the whole. Short by one bowling option I think.

Teuton - Good team. B Mac in particular is a proper star in this format. Not sure about Smith and Ponting at 3 and 4, mostly because I don't know if this is the right format for them to bat together. Other than that, looks a fantastic team.

Anil - I don't like Malik and Marsh much, and Johnson can either very good or very bad with the ball. Apart from those minor things, this is probably one of the best team of the lot. Rashid Khan, Ajmal, and Gul will be excellent with the ball and you have Mussey in at 5 to win games. Good attacking openers as well.

BoyBrumby - The best team by my reckoning. No apparent weaknesses and everyone playing in their best possible position.

Fuller Pilch - Fantastic top 4 and that's the best top 4 in the draft I think. Not quite as big a fan of nos 5 to 8 and I don't know if the bowling is good enough.

mr_mr - Good team but maybe lacking the star power in batting that other teams have. Love the bowling although it's slightly unproven with McGrath and Pollock.


My votes:

1. BoyBrumby
2. Anil
3. Teuton
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Yeah, I agree about Roy. I wanted to pick him as I think he's a good T20 player and obviously I needed to balance it out with decades. However, I couldn't resist picking Sanath and didn't feel right about playing him at 3. Shot myself in the foot a bit with that pick.

I kind of like Miller at 6 as he doesn't really strike me as a batsman who hangs around much. He either hits it or gets out. Pollard at 6 is a slot too high for me.
Agree Miller isn't the type to nurdle around but think if anything that contributed to my decision. If he was more of a nurdler I could think Pollard comes up the order if you are batting well and if the innings needs to be rebuilt after a poor start then Pollard would still face some balls at 7. But with it feeling like Dhoni, Miller and Pollard are serving a similar role its hard to see Pollard getting promoted up the order and personally I feel he's wasted a bit at 7 as unlikely to have the opportunity to face many balls and thought someone who could bowl 24 balls that improves upon Pollard and Jayasuria and can still bat a bit at 7 or 8 perhaps adds more value to the side. Effectively thought Miller would do the same job as Pollard being the finisher but perhaps just not as destructively (although Miller does have the better T20I record in fairness to him).

But the great thing about T20 is the differing viewpoints and that its hard to really quantify stuff as whilst I think Pollard at 7 is wasted a bit having such deep batting means the top order can play with great freedom, how many extra runs per innings is that worth on average - hard to quantify but it definitely means your batting can't be called top-heavy!!


JOJOXI - Good team but I have to wonder why you didn't just pick Mahela instead of Sanga there. Mahela actually opens for T20s and is a better player in this format as an opener so it would have been a much better pick that would have looked more balanced. The bowling is fantastic though with Starc, Malinga, and Murali. Also, I like Buttler in this format.
Wanted a left hander just so we were a bit more flexible to matchups as otherwise would have had 3 right handers in top 3 but point taken on Jayawardene - agree he probably is a better pick and guess its a prominent debate as to how much you should factor matchups into team planning in T20s - just thought Sanga as a left hander would balance the handedness of top order, couldn't use legspin to just attack the right handers in or immediately after the powerplay. Also thought Sangakarra with a solid technique could ensure we weren't too one-dimensional with Sanga and Root just able to rotate and play sensible cricket if the pitch has something in it for the bowlers whilst still playing positive cricket if not quite scoring at the strike-rates others would. For what its worth had the following players on my shortlist for final pick as opener - Sangakarra (00s), Lewis (10s), Hales (10s), Dilshan (00s), Dhawan (10s) - when I decided I wanted a left hander it narrowed things down to Sangakkara, Lewis and Dhawan - probably closest to picking Evin Lewis if I hadn't gone for Sanga.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Tough call, tbh.

I like JoJo's batting depth and he has a nice mix of proper pace in Starc and Malinga (the change of angle from the former being a leftie too is nice), bit of mystery from Murali and Imad's nagging accuracy. Shakib, Yuvi, Watto and (to a lesser extent) Pandya all very useful second string options too.

Really surprised Himannv hasn't even got off the scoring mark yet as I think he has a pretty bloody good XI. Heat from Lee, and Boult and Stokes are no slouches in short bursts either, bit of magic from Narine and decent middle over options in Sanath, Pollard and Jadeja. Nice depth to the batting too, with Jadeja in at #8 and even Bing at ten to mow a few.

KK has good batting depth and nice pace in situ too with Paddy C and Rabada, and Tahir's wrong 'un has been destroying unsuspecting batters for a decade or more, but maybe his 4th and 5th bowling options are a little weaker than some of the other XIs'.

Anil's bowling is pretty hard to find fault with (if one ignores Ajmal's elbow, obvz) and has a nice look to the top 5, but the batting after then could be a little boom or bust if one were to be hyper critical.

FP possibly has the best batting on paper (although Jojo's point about Malan possibly being a player in great form in the format rather than a great player in the format is well made) and an impressive opening new ball pair, but I'm not sure I entirely share his confidence in Jordan at the death, although I could be clouded slightly in my judgement from some of his recent IPL efforts. His spin department looks solid, with Agar and Afridi both decent performers and Gayle an underused option in the format too.

On balance then:

1) Fuller Pilch - 3pts
2) Himannv - 2pts
3) JOJOXI - 1pt
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Really surprised Himannv hasn't even got off the scoring mark yet as I think he has a pretty bloody good XI. Heat from Lee, and Boult and Stokes are no slouches in short bursts either, bit of magic from Narine and decent middle over options in Sanath, Pollard and Jadeja. Nice depth to the batting too, with Jadeja in at #8 and even Bing at ten to mow a few.
I was close to voting for Himannv but interesting comment from HonestBharani on Narine in his voting - would be interesting to see how others see him? Personally, I rate him really highly, before remodelling his action he was making a claim to be an ATG in T20 cricket - even after remodelling his action he perhaps has lost some of the mystery and magic but he's ridiculously accurate and hard to score off if not quite the wicket-taking threat he previosuly was.


FP possibly has the best batting on paper (although Jojo's point about Malan possibly being a player in great form in the format rather than a great player in the format is well made) and an impressive opening new ball pair, but I'm not sure I entirely share his confidence in Jordan at the death, although I could be clouded slightly in my judgement from some of his recent IPL efforts. His spin department looks solid, with Agar and Afridi both decent performers and Gayle an underused option in the format too.
I was thinking more towards Jordan's international performances, if anything I was the opposite and probably his international performances means I didn't really factor in his IPL performances as much as I have for a few other players. Think his weakness at times is he seems to bowl the odd bad ball early on in Limited overs innings, odd as he's done well at FC level so thought him bowling mostly at the death when he's at his best would be ideal. Although he has had a pretty ordinary IPL this year and even when he was at RCB he was pretty ordinary.
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
Should also say (as I didn't put it in the first post on this thread) I plan to leave this open until the weekend after this one coming - probably leaving this open until the 31st October unless anyone specifically mentions that they need a day or 2 more closer to the time
 

Teuton

International Vice-Captain
First time I have tried to judge a T20 comp so I found that difficult but here are my votes:

3 Jojoxi
2 Himannv
1 BoyBrumby
 

JOJOXI

State Vice-Captain
tagging @mr_mister if you want to vote, will give it until probably this time tomorrow unless mr_mister asks for a bit more time then can give a day or 2 more. I think everyone else who took part has voted.
 

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