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Ponting's future in jeopardy???
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Precambrian
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Hopefully, a resurgent Ponting will push Tendulkar to be around longerWishful thinking methinks, Precambrian.
In all seriousness, I don't think Ponting is going to keep averaging in the mid 40s as he has been doing recently. He'll get right up there soon. SA series will be interesting.
dontcloseyoureyes
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Precambrian
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Didnt Tendulkar have a bear run recently in Sri Lanka?If there's anything the stock markets have taught me, its that a W shaped event leads to a bear runI can see that in Ponting's case test #49 onwards, but Tendulkar seems to be defying a perfect W pattern ending at #121.
Ikki
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Hopefully, indeed. I'd like both to play as long as possible.Hopefully, a resurgent Ponting will push Tendulkar to be around longer
Precambrian
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Yeah so we can continue our Ponting Vs Sachin stat wars ad infinitum.
G.I.Joe
International Coach
The bear run (indeedy, DCYE) is supposed to immediately follow the W pattern
http://www.georgekissi.com/2008/10/30/what-is-a-double-bottom-chart-pattern/
Precambrian
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Correct me if am gloriously wrong, but my understanding of that article tells me that a W slope is the frontrunner of a bull run.The bear run (indeedy, DCYE) is supposed to immediately follow the W pattern
http://www.georgekissi.com/2008/10/30/what-is-a-double-bottom-chart-pattern/
Precambrian
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No issues.
Tyrannosaurus Rex of them, Sir Don. GI Joe, your "W" theory works like a charm here
G.I.Joe
International Coach
It is, of course, highly debatable if such theories can be scientifically applied to batting averages. For one, these charts plot cumulative averages against time as opposed to plain momentary averages as would seem the case with stock. However it could also be argued that the value of a stock at any given moment in time is in fact the cumulative value of the trust it has gained over time alongwith elements of present day factors. Secondly, the market dynamics of buying and selling, which drive the steep upward and downward trends, are absent here. This could be explained this way - the batsman suddenly discovers a facet of his game, certain techniques that drive his average through the roof in a very short span of time, leading to the steep upwards curve of the W. It doesn't last long though, the bowlers figure out these changes quickly and push him back down. The batsman is resilient though, he tinkers with the same principles, discards the parts that have been countered, revises and refines the core and comes back with another upward curve. He is successful this time, and the bowlers now cannot prevent the batsman from maintaining a good run as a consequence of his now finely honed skills.No issues.
Tyrannosaurus Rex of them, Sir Don. GI Joe, your "W" theory works like a charm here
Or I may have just wasted five minutes of our time
Precambrian
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Not more than anytime on CW. Actually I am into stocks a bit. Was interested when you quoted the theory.It is, of course, highly debatable if such theories can be scientifically applied to batting averages. For one, these charts plot cumulative averages against time as opposed to plain momentary averages as would seem the case with stock. However it could also be argued that the value of a stock at any given moment in time is in fact the cumulative value of the trust it has gained over time alongwith elements of present day factors. Secondly, the market dynamics of buying and selling, which drive the steep upward and downward trends, are absent here. This could be explained this way - the batsman suddenly discovers a facet of his game, certain techniques that drive his average through the roof in a very short span of time, leading to the steep upwards curve of the W. It doesn't last long though, the bowlers figure out these changes quickly and push him back down. The batsman is resilient though, he tinkers with the same principles, discards the parts that have been countered, revises and refines the core and comes back with another upward curve. He is successful this time, and the bowlers now cannot prevent the batsman from maintaining a good run as a consequence of his now finely honed skills.
Or I may have just wasted five minutes of our time
Burgey
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Waugh's is interesting actually, in that I really thought his last couple of years it was fairly obvious he was in decline, but the graph doesn't eally semm to bare that out.The ultra consistent S Waugh
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The brilliant freak Lara
Top_Cat
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I dunno, once he switched from G&M to MRF, he became a hitting machine. Remember that 88 off 50-odd balls he hit against WA in the MM final just before he retired? He may have had hamstrings of tin-foil and his back was largely held together with tape and staples by the end but geez, he was hitting the ball harder than he ever did. His 80-odd in his final Test was a gem. On form, could probably have kept going for another season or two. I never saw him hit as many 6's as he did in his last couple of years.
Richard
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Bangladesh disguise the issue.
Against Test-standard sides Stephen Waugh's last 2 years (2001/02-2003/04) produced an average of just 38. And this was essentially after a poor 2001/02, moderate 2002/03 and pretty decent once again 2003/04 (though that consisted of just 1 series against a Test-class team).
Richard
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I'd presumed you meant a "bare run" by a "bear run".