NUFAN
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Rogers opening with Katich at 3 wouldn't be too bad, except for 4 lefties in the top 4!
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Ponting's future in jeopardy???
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NZTailender
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Why? Left handers have fared better than right handers of late.
Alternatively, Katich to keep opening, Markis Norf to bat at 3.
Mister Wright
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Very much doubt Ponting would take 8-10 weeks at such a crucial period. Although there isn't much time between the S.A. tour and the Ashes.
Mister Wright
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No different to having 3 right handers in the top 4. Obviously except that they are right handers not left handers, but you get what I mean.
NUFAN
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I rate North, but I wouldn't want him making his Test debut at 3 in the order. He's more of a 5 or 6 if he were to play a Test.
I don't completely agree that lefties have performed better recently.. For Australia the man of the series just gone was RH Michael Clarke..
It would be interesting to see LH batsmen career averages in the top 6 vs RH batsmen career averages for all Test playing nations currently [can exclude Banga's if you like].
Richard
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IIRR there's a considerable increase in run-scoring percentage for LHBs compared to RHBs. Obviously that doesn't mean you should look to select LHBs just because they're LHBs - but it does mean that it's a good idea to try to train a 7-year-old to bat left-handed rather than right.
The batsman has to have the skill, but if he does, he's got a better chance of making use of it batting left- than right-handed.
The batsman has to have the skill, but if he does, he's got a better chance of making use of it batting left- than right-handed.
Richard
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Yeah I realise you can't force surgery on a patient, but you can say that painkillers are not going to be given any more.
I presume that what's now considered dangerous hasn't yet been exceeded. I just wonder if in time such a consideration will be toned down and stuff which has been laissez-faired for the last 20 years might end-up being considered actually rather unwise.
NZTailender
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Yeah, agree that you shouldn't pick a batsman based on his handedness - but also, you shouldn't not pick someone based on which hand they bat with. The best should be selected and if that results in a LH top four so be it.
Although I guess the debate is whether or not North deserves to be at 3. Probably not but I rate him. Other options are obviously Hodge, Dave Hussey or even, dare I say, Watto.
NUFAN
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That's interesting, I think the problem for RH's is that the players from the weaker batting lineups are predominately right handed.
The stats do show that RH are more dominate in 6 hitting and SR, plus have a highest score in the last year.
Thanks for the stats.
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NUFAN
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Yeah fair point re: That the hand someone bats with shouldn't really matter, I just put an exclamation point earlier, cause I doubt that an Australian top 4 has ever been all Left Handed.
I would hate to see either Dave Hussey or Watson in the top 3 in Test Cricket.
Hayden, Katich, Ponting, Rogers, Jaques [when fit], Hodge and M.Hussey would be the only players I would consider currently.
andruid
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I thought you meant there was no limit o the number of middle-order batsmen SA are prepared to manufacture into openers to ensure that the opener AB De Villiers remains batting n the middle orer
NZTailender
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Hughes to open, Katich 3 (c) [/bias]
NUFAN
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I reckon in about 2010 if Ponting gets an injury this could be a distinct possibility.
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I strongly suspect the Aussies may move Michael Clarke to bat at 3 in the unlikely event Ponting has to miss some game time. He's headed there anyway so I'd think they'll look at it as just being ahead of schedule.
And before anyone mentions Clarke's play outside off stump, just remember exactly the same concerns were raised about Ponting, many players saying he didn't have the right game style to bat at 3. He got over it, no reason why Clarke can't. In terms of style and temperament, I reckon he's just about the ideal number 3. He looks like the proverbial cat on a hot tin roof sometimes but, again, so did Ponting.
And before anyone mentions Clarke's play outside off stump, just remember exactly the same concerns were raised about Ponting, many players saying he didn't have the right game style to bat at 3. He got over it, no reason why Clarke can't. In terms of style and temperament, I reckon he's just about the ideal number 3. He looks like the proverbial cat on a hot tin roof sometimes but, again, so did Ponting.
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It's not uncommon with wrists/ ankles for the hardware inserted in surgery to begin to irritate the joint, which may be the case here. Usually they can fix it.
Certainly hope they can in this case.
If he's out, I'd run with Rogers at the top with Hayden, Katich to number 3. Minimal disruption to the rest of the order.
Certainly hope they can in this case.
If he's out, I'd run with Rogers at the top with Hayden, Katich to number 3. Minimal disruption to the rest of the order.
NZTailender
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Yeah, I'd actually like to see this above all. Couple of years back in the face of Langer and Hayden retiring soon enough that Jaques-Rogers would be the logical opening partnership to succeed them, for a small while at least.
Rogers is quite an underrated batsman for mine, and IIRC got some unfair criticism in his only Test.
Funnily enough, Hussey, Jaques and Rogers all have one thing in common - they all made similar scores in their very first innings and second innings on debut.
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Klinger at 3.
NUFAN
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Yeah for sure. Rogers did look overawed on debut, but I guess that is normal. He took a ripper of a catch on debut. I'm happy for him that he's playing well for the Vics, great to see him in OD matches too.
When we go to England next year, it's going to be a real dog fight for the last couple of batting positions.