**Official**Zimbabwe in Bangladesh Thread

[bryce]

they really should included manjural islam rana, he is a very talented player with both bat and ball

 

[Prince EWS]

Ya, Josh, I agree with you. But when you claim yourself an allrounder, you have to be strong either at batting or bowling. While I agree Alok Kapali is a very talented player, but he should be given some time to become more mature. Let him get some big score in local matches and with Bangladesh A team. Then take him back.

Well, apparentely he had been scoring some runs in the "National League" and thats why they picked him.

If all the bowlers had bowled 10 overs, 0/40, Bangladesh would have won comfortably, so Alok's bowling cant be condemned.

I think he needs to be presevered with. Ive always rated him as a possible international standard player, especially with the bat.

 

[Scaly piscine]

If all the bowlers had bowled 10 overs, 0/40, Bangladesh would have won comfortably, so Alok's bowling cant be condemned.

But it doesn't work that way, the more wickets you have remaining the more runs you will get on average.

 

[marc71178]

Unless you listen to the one who ignores everything that's happened in the past because he knows better that is.

 

[Prince EWS]

But it doesn't work that way, the more wickets you have remaining the more runs you will get on average.

Not if the bowling is good at the death.

Im not saying that his bowling figures are world class, but they were certainly good, and if Enamul had got them, no-one would be complaining.

 

[marc71178]

Not if the bowling is good at the death.

Not true - did Afridi destroy some good bowling the other night?

 

[Prince EWS]

Not true - did Afridi destroy some good bowling the other night?

No, he destroyed some ordinary bowling.

 

[JASON]

The fact that this weak Zim side can compete equally with Bangladesh , is A really telling indication of where Bangla are in ODIs.

In fact Zim could quite possibly have levelled the away Test series had they played a touch better.

 

[marc71178]

No, he destroyed some ordinary bowling.

Full balls are ordinary now?

 

[Josh]

when's the next ODI??

 

[Slow Love™]

The fact that this weak Zim side can compete equally with Bangladesh , is A really telling indication of where Bangla are in ODIs.

In fact Zim could quite possibly have levelled the away Test series had they played a touch better.

Yes, they're not very good. But we knew that already, and I don't see how that takes away from their test series victory. You have to start somewhere, and frequently that will mean beating an ordinary side.

Plus, by beating Zimbabwe, they're doing international cricket a favor.

On an additional note, it looks like the ZCU are getting a little concerned about their "best available lineup":

http://aus.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2005/JAN/164161_ZIM_22JAN2005.html

 

[marc71178]

I still can't work out how Streak was playing Domestic Cricket in Zimbabwe as well as for the FICA "World XI" today.

EDIT: Which was the case until Cricinfo editted their article to make me look silly.

 

[bryce]

zimbabwe make it 2-0, interesting thing for me was that barney rogers got through 10 overs - his previous record in his last 8 ODI's was 9 overs 0 wickets for 72 runs, seems zimbabwe are deveoping quite a few useful all-round cricketers much like NZ(obviously not to the same extent) but they have proved that it is a useful selection policy to have in one-dayers as opposed to making your team up of primarily sepecialists, i'm sure i could of guessed utseya's figures - 10 overs 1/37

 

[Josh]

Damn inconsistant Bangladesh!!

 

[Chubb]

Half of all Zimbabwean players are allrounders these days, Rogers, Ewing, Utseya, Hondo (A first-class hundred or 80-odd, can't remember which), Ervine, Blignaut, Keith Dabengwa, Andre Hoffman, Gregg Haakonsen, Matt Townshend, Taibu, Gav Rennie, Grant Flower, Streak, Tawanda Mupariwa, Elton Chigumbura, Stu Matsikenyeri, Hamilton Masakadza ... the list is practically endless.

I think it's born out of the fact most of them learn cricket at school, and schoolboy performance is unpredictable, and also they tend to have the very best, most naturally talented cricketers do a lot for the side.

 

[bryce]

that's much like the way it works in NZ

 

[Chubb]

Yeah I know what you mean. Zimbabwe and NZ are quite small nations in terms of population, whereas India and the rest don't seem to produce too many allrounders, especially not compared to New Zealand. No one makes better use of resources than NZ- are you the least populated test nation? (I really should say "we" now, I filled out my citizenship application this morning.)

 

[Neil Pickup]

Half of all Zimbabwean players are allrounders these days, Rogers, Ewing, Utseya, Hondo (A first-class hundred or 80-odd, can't remember which), Ervine, Blignaut, Keith Dabengwa, Andre Hoffman, Gregg Haakonsen, Matt Townshend, Taibu, Gav Rennie, Grant Flower, Streak, Tawanda Mupariwa, Elton Chigumbura, Stu Matsikenyeri, Hamilton Masakadza ... the list is practically endless.

I think it's born out of the fact most of them learn cricket at school, and schoolboy performance is unpredictable, and also they tend to have the very best, most naturally talented cricketers do a lot for the side.

That's a pretty loose definition of all-rounder, and one that would run to most International players.

 

[bryce]

Yeah I know what you mean. Zimbabwe and NZ are quite small nations in terms of population, whereas India and the rest don't seem to produce too many allrounders, especially not compared to New Zealand. No one makes better use of resources than NZ- are you the least populated test nation? (I really should say "we" now, I filled out my citizenship application this morning.)

yeah i don't think any other test playing countries have less than 4 million people - oops should i make that 4 million and one now lol

 

[Slow Love™]

Damn inconsistant Bangladesh!!

LOL.

Looking like another potential victory for Bangladesh today. Zim are 4/94 chasing 244. Taibu's just come to the wicket, and the asking rate is 6.9.