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Official Rugby Thread
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Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Rightly or wrongly NZ has snaked will Skelton's younger brother to play for New Zealand.
Chiefs swoop on Will Skelton's locking brother | Stuff.co.nz
Chiefs swoop on Will Skelton's locking brother | Stuff.co.nz
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
I haven't watched the game but it sounds like Luatua did not step up and handle the Boks physicality. Disappointing, but he is still a young guy.
I think I'd go for Kaino as the obvious first choice, and Vito as the backup at the world cup. Messam just doesn't impress me and playing both Cane and McCaw is lunacy, they're both categorically opensides.
It's really unfortunate that Vito is injured because he seemed to have really improved this year.
I think I'd go for Kaino as the obvious first choice, and Vito as the backup at the world cup. Messam just doesn't impress me and playing both Cane and McCaw is lunacy, they're both categorically opensides.
It's really unfortunate that Vito is injured because he seemed to have really improved this year.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Some peeps on the Interweb are saying Ritchie doesn't play like a 7 anymore and may be best suited to 6. He has stopped foraging for TOs but looks more for tackles and clean outs.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
They're wrong. He's not getting as many turnovers because he's not as fast as he used to be. It's also the fact that the new rules with having to release the tackled player mean it's harder for any 7 to get as many turnovers as they did in the mid 2000s.
He does a reasonable impression of a 6 and even an 8 but he's without doubt still an open side. I understand the desire to get Cane into the team because he's a quality player, but he'll get his chance.
I don't mind playing McCaw or Cane at 6 for the next game because of the injury crisis but it's not a long term option and I think we're better off sticking to Luatua to give him a bit of confidence.
Phipps' yellow was marginal but if you are unsure and on your last warning then don't take the risk
We also need about 6 forwards, a captain, a coach and a competent administration tbf
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dermo
International Vice-Captain
theres plenty of room to improve sure but on the bright side we've drawn with the all blacks and shouldve beaten south africa in south africa.
the rugby championship is the toughest rugby competition in the world and it's showing, give us back quade cooper, stephen moore and henry speight and maybe things look a bit different
we've also got james o'connor returning from europe, david pocock coming back from injury and karmichael hunt who could be anything
there's still a fair bit of rugby between now and the world cup so lets not give up just yet
the rugby championship is the toughest rugby competition in the world and it's showing, give us back quade cooper, stephen moore and henry speight and maybe things look a bit different
we've also got james o'connor returning from europe, david pocock coming back from injury and karmichael hunt who could be anything
there's still a fair bit of rugby between now and the world cup so lets not give up just yet
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
II thought Australia failed to establish dominance up front and then suffered from there.
Where does Australia go from here:
1) Australia can arguably put out the best backline in the world if they make the right selections (Beale at 12) Play to that strength. Become the best running rugby team in the world.
2) Hoopah if he is going to play simply needs to step it up at the breakdown, I don't care what he offers in the open or on defence, he needs to do his core job better. At this point I might be tempted to bring back Pocock even though Hoopah is captain.
3) Go to the Rugby League ranks and get some players who can bolster your forwards. You need some bulk up there and preferrably a world class athlete.
Look it isn't doom and gloom for Australia or time to push the panic button either. If you are going to get that many yellow cards you are going to lose to just about anyone who is half way decent. Argentina have drawn games against SA and were always going to win a game sooner or later. Steve Hansen - "They are going to win soon just hope it isn't against us"
Where does Australia go from here:
1) Australia can arguably put out the best backline in the world if they make the right selections (Beale at 12) Play to that strength. Become the best running rugby team in the world.
2) Hoopah if he is going to play simply needs to step it up at the breakdown, I don't care what he offers in the open or on defence, he needs to do his core job better. At this point I might be tempted to bring back Pocock even though Hoopah is captain.
3) Go to the Rugby League ranks and get some players who can bolster your forwards. You need some bulk up there and preferrably a world class athlete.
Look it isn't doom and gloom for Australia or time to push the panic button either. If you are going to get that many yellow cards you are going to lose to just about anyone who is half way decent. Argentina have drawn games against SA and were always going to win a game sooner or later. Steve Hansen - "They are going to win soon just hope it isn't against us"
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Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
AWTA with 99% of this - I am not a Cooper fan but AWTA massively about Stephen Moore. He is a huge loss. Henry Speight will be massive for you once you get him. Half of the AB back line moves revolve around shovelling it through to Savea and I reckon you will do the same with Speight after a while.
I also wouldn't pick O'Connor for any position. He is a Jack of all trades and master of none.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Like who? Such a different sort of game where the big skillful league forwards end up being centres in Union anyway.
Nah, I've been hearing the world's best backline thing forever
Trouble is that the Wallabies have no structure or discipline
What's more, we rarely create a solid platform from which the backs can launch an attack (e.g. scrum has been serviceable at best for a decade or more and ****e for a lot of that time) and the vast majority of players lack a mastery of the basics
We are flat out ordinary and a couple of extra backs wont change that
Trouble is that the Wallabies have no structure or discipline
What's more, we rarely create a solid platform from which the backs can launch an attack (e.g. scrum has been serviceable at best for a decade or more and ****e for a lot of that time) and the vast majority of players lack a mastery of the basics
We are flat out ordinary and a couple of extra backs wont change that
Agreed
No leaguie is going to switch to a game in order to play in the tight 5 as it would be totally foreign to them and boring as **** anyway