Bahnz
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He could start by not bowling complete pus half the time.
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**Official** Bangladesh in the West Indies
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Hurricane
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This test series is clearly the worst in terms of contest this year. Bangladesh hardly putting enough fight and West Indies slow batting and thinking that 400 lead or something is not enough against this side especially in this rainy season. Which is why I believe West Indies will never become a top team again and will have a very hard time when they tour to India and South Africa. West Indies should really be wrapping this up on 4th day and enforced the follow-on which the top teams would've done against a side like Bangladesh. Its clear they wanted the batsman to boost their run charts hence they batted again and look set to bat even further onto the 4th day.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
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Beamer
International Captain
Thoughts so far:
Kemar Roach = World class. 110 wickets at 25 apiece averaging 4 wickets per test is up there with the very best. It was also good to see his average speed going up slightly, I think soon he'll be back to the 140kph mark.
Shannon Gabriel is bowling a lot better than he was and his pace has been right up to 150kph, but he still hasn't rediscovered that movement he found against Zimbabwe a couple of years back. I don't think he's going to make it at test level until he remembers how to move the ball.
Kraigg Braithwaite continues to look the part since his comeback and long may it continue. I'll be surprised if he doesn't score runs in India given his batting against spin but the real test of his technique and temperament will come in South Africa.
I was seriously impressed with Leon Johnson, who now surely has to replace Kirk Edwards when Gayle is back. He was playing lovely shots all around the wicket and his footwork was excellent. My only fear is his propensity not to go on and get 3 figures which he will have to sort out if he wants a regular place in the side.
Shiv is Shiv and will bat the way he does regardless of what anyone says. To be at the top of his field aged 40 is pretty damn amazing. I thought he could have scored much more quickly in the first innings but in his defence, the pitch slowed down dramatically after 40 overs or so and the spinners would have been hard for anyone to get away. Darren Bravo's 2nd innings is the only real one I would criticise in this test, I thought he came out with a very negative mindset when we all know he has the capability to hit the spinners out of the attack. His actual dismissal was ludicrously unlucky but it was probably the worst innings I've seen him play.
As for our approach in this test, I really don't get what all the fuss is about. We're on course to smash them again, the bowlers did their job perfectly allowing the batters to just bat at whatever pace they choose to set up a huge lead. As long as they bat with purpose for 90 minutes or so this morning they will have a 500 plus run lead with 5 and a bit sessions to bowl them out. We're preparing for much larger tests in the near future with some very young batsmen in our side and so far most things have gone to plan.
Finally, the thing I'm most pleased about is Ramdin's captaincy and keeping (which thankfully is back up to a very high level after a poor series against New Zealand). Apart from one or two blemishes with gaps in the slip cordon, he has been much more positive. Easier opposition yes, but he is obviously learning from his mistakes, as those of us who have followed his captaincy career knew he would.
Kemar Roach = World class. 110 wickets at 25 apiece averaging 4 wickets per test is up there with the very best. It was also good to see his average speed going up slightly, I think soon he'll be back to the 140kph mark.
Shannon Gabriel is bowling a lot better than he was and his pace has been right up to 150kph, but he still hasn't rediscovered that movement he found against Zimbabwe a couple of years back. I don't think he's going to make it at test level until he remembers how to move the ball.
Kraigg Braithwaite continues to look the part since his comeback and long may it continue. I'll be surprised if he doesn't score runs in India given his batting against spin but the real test of his technique and temperament will come in South Africa.
I was seriously impressed with Leon Johnson, who now surely has to replace Kirk Edwards when Gayle is back. He was playing lovely shots all around the wicket and his footwork was excellent. My only fear is his propensity not to go on and get 3 figures which he will have to sort out if he wants a regular place in the side.
Shiv is Shiv and will bat the way he does regardless of what anyone says. To be at the top of his field aged 40 is pretty damn amazing. I thought he could have scored much more quickly in the first innings but in his defence, the pitch slowed down dramatically after 40 overs or so and the spinners would have been hard for anyone to get away. Darren Bravo's 2nd innings is the only real one I would criticise in this test, I thought he came out with a very negative mindset when we all know he has the capability to hit the spinners out of the attack. His actual dismissal was ludicrously unlucky but it was probably the worst innings I've seen him play.
As for our approach in this test, I really don't get what all the fuss is about. We're on course to smash them again, the bowlers did their job perfectly allowing the batters to just bat at whatever pace they choose to set up a huge lead. As long as they bat with purpose for 90 minutes or so this morning they will have a 500 plus run lead with 5 and a bit sessions to bowl them out. We're preparing for much larger tests in the near future with some very young batsmen in our side and so far most things have gone to plan.
Finally, the thing I'm most pleased about is Ramdin's captaincy and keeping (which thankfully is back up to a very high level after a poor series against New Zealand). Apart from one or two blemishes with gaps in the slip cordon, he has been much more positive. Easier opposition yes, but he is obviously learning from his mistakes, as those of us who have followed his captaincy career knew he would.
Slifer
International Captain
I'm with u beamer. To the posters who think wi should have declared already bla bla bla and not ever being a top team again....all I have to say is just relax. WI are up and coming and all most of us true wi fans want is to just see some improved results from our team. It's likely the selectors r using this series as practise to see who to take overseas for the next two series (hence y they persist with Gabriel and Edwards) .
Bahnz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
A while ago it was suggested that Bangladesh should only play tests at home, and when touring should play first class matches against A or domestic sides (with maybe 1 test maximum). After seeing how meek they've been in this series I can't help but think that that's the way forward for them.
Well done to Chanders by the way. When was the last time a test batsman scored a 100 when past the age of 40? Gooch in the early 90's maybe?
Well done to Chanders by the way. When was the last time a test batsman scored a 100 when past the age of 40? Gooch in the early 90's maybe?
Hurricane
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AWTA - They were never going to succeed against Roach in his own back yard anyway as a "developing" side.
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Tamim's knock was so good. Glad to see him playing well.
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Ha, I knew people would start saying this. Happens everytime Bangladesh get smashed, which is pretty much always. I just don't get why people keep making this excuse of Bangladesh not playing enough being the reason for their not being good. They've actually played tests pretty frequently and yet people talk about them as if they're like Zimbabwe, who play a proper test series every two years.
Ha, I knew people would start saying this. Happens everytime Bangladesh get smashed, which is pretty much always. I just don't get why people keep making this excuse of Bangladesh not playing enough being the reason for their not being good. They've actually played tests pretty frequently and yet people talk about them as if they're like Zimbabwe, who play a proper test series every two years.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Bangladesh have one Test class player in Shakib, a handful of first class players who can get away with it in Tamim and Mushfiqur, a couple genuine first class players like Mominul and Mahmdullah and then they have some club standard blokes.
The lack of development is extremely disappointing and obviously isn't helped when a key player is left out due to an off the field reason. Almost ready to give up my Bangers support badge.
The lack of development is extremely disappointing and obviously isn't helped when a key player is left out due to an off the field reason. Almost ready to give up my Bangers support badge.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Rahim is Test standard for mine.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Rahim might get picked for some of the other nations in the world. So I would like a different label for him rather than test class (I accept he is not world class).