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*Official* Bangladesh in the West Indies 2018

Prince EWS

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Amazing to consider that Barath is still only 28 -- two years younger than Mike Hussey was on Test debut. I know he hasn't played pro cricket for a few years now, but does he still play at all? Or did he toss it in entirely?
 

Beamer

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Amazing to consider that Barath is still only 28 -- two years younger than Mike Hussey was on Test debut. I know he hasn't played pro cricket for a few years now, but does he still play at all? Or did he toss it in entirely?
He has given up cricket completely and has devoted his life to being a Jehovah witness. I believe he used his T20 money wisely and has his own business too but I'm not 100% sure. I heard he's happy anyway so good luck to him. Massive shame though, he was destined to be the attacking opener to compliment Kraigg.
 

cnerd123

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Bangladesh were left wondering what would have happened if they had not been denied four crucial runs by an International Cricket Council Playing Condition during their second One Day International against the West Indies in Guyana on Wednesday.
The side lost the game by three runs so the four could have, in theory at least, given them a win.

The situation arose in the 43th over of Bangladesh’s run-chase when Mushfiqur Rahim tried to play a reverse-sweep off Devendra Bishoo but the ball hit his gloves and raced towards the third-man region for a boundary. West Indies players appealed for leg-before just-after Mushfiq attempted the shot and umpire Gregory Brathwaite gave him out.

Brathwaite's decision was reversed after the batsman requested a review, however, the boundary did not count as the Laws and ICC Playing Conditions say the ball is immediately ‘dead' when an umpire declares someone out. If Mushfiq had been given not out and the West Indies themselves had reviewed the decision only for the same decision to apply, he would have got the runs.

Former Bangladesh captain and Bangladesh Cricket Board match referee ASM Roquibul Hasan said: ‘A rule is always rule. You have to be obedient to the laws, rules and regulations. When the umpire makes the decision to give a batsman out the ball becomes dead with immediate effect. Even if the ball crosses the boundary line after the decision the batsman will not get the runs. It’s the rule and all should respect that”.

Despite all that, in the match in question, Bangladesh only needed eight runs off the final seven balls with six wickets in hand and two set batsman at the crease, to win the match, however, they failed to convert that into a win.
Find that 'dead on review' rule pretty interesting. Makes sense if you think about it.
 

TheJediBrah

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Damn so you can hit a nice boundary but it doesn't count because the ****ing umpire gave you out lbw because he sucks
 

Prince EWS

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He has given up cricket completely and has devoted his life to being a Jehovah witness. I believe he used his T20 money wisely and has his own business too but I'm not 100% sure. I heard he's happy anyway so good luck to him. Massive shame though, he was destined to be the attacking opener to compliment Kraigg.
Yeah that makes sense I guess. It would've been hard to imagine him just not being selected at any point over the last five years or so domestically if he was still playing, even taking into account how bad he was going at that level the last time he played.
 

Beamer

International Captain
Yeah that makes sense I guess. It would've been hard to imagine him just not being selected at any point over the last five years or so domestically if he was still playing, even taking into account how bad he was going at that level the last time he played.
He might well have thrived under our current selectors because they are giving people long runs. He was discarded fairly early.

I do think his cricketing tale is also a cautionary one. He started out as a teenager with a beastly offside game, tight defence and the ability to flick it through the legside when given the opportunity. He then played T20 in the Champions League tournament and scored lots of runs and so got an IPL contract. From that point on he became really loose outside off stump. He had been kept away from T20 deliberately to aid his development and when he finally did play I really believe it screwed his longer format technique up.
 

Mr Miyagi

Banned
There's nothing wrong with the rule itself.
You sure? It is 1 less ball that the batting team gets to score runs from in limited overs cricket.

Imagine 2 runs needed off last ball, batsman hits a 4 but umpire gives him out. He reviews - he's not out. What is the remedy to the batting side for the umpire error? His average not being tarnished?
 

Mr Miyagi

Banned
The bowler has done nothing wrong, but imo he should rebowl the ball because his team is benefitting from an automatic dot ball from a proven umpire error.
 

Borges

International Regular
If drs reverses umpire decisions it should reverse the dead ball bowled in limited overs cricket too.
What if there was no chance of scoring a run even if it were not a dead ball?

Moral of the story: The fielding side should not appeal in such a situation.
 

Hitmantis

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My Line-up for Pakistan in the Asia Cup:
1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Imam-ul-Haq
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Sarfaraz Ahmed (c) (wk)
6. Shoaib Malik
7. Asif Ali
8. Shadab Khan
9. Faheem Ashraf
10. Hasan Ali
11. Usman Khan Shinwari / Mohammad Amir

Subs: Haris Sohail/ Junaid Khan/ Hussain Talat

Two quality seamers, Faheem Ashraf in the middle overs, Hafeez to throttle the batting and get an economical 7-10 overs, Shadab for some attacking leg spin and Malik as the 6th option with Fakhar to roll his arm if needed. Finally, our batting is more potent and longer than before. Going all the way down to 10 (Hasan Ali has a half-century against NZ in ODI's). The perfect blend of experience, youth and an attacking team with a finisher in Asif Ali and Malik.
 

cnerd123

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The laws makes sense to me because DRS is to have minimal effect on the game. As per the laws, the ball is dead when the umpire makes his decision.

If the ball hits bat and pad, the bowlers appeal, the batsman run a single as the umpire gives it out - if under review the decision is given not out and the batsmen are awarded the run, you have now denied the fielding side an opportunity to defend that run or score a runout.

Likewise we do not know if the keeper or a fielder would have chased that ball down and stopped the four if the umpire hadnt given Mushy out.

In the end there is no clean solution - you just go for the easiest one. And the easiest one is that of the umpire gives you out, the runs scored dont matter.
 

vcs

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Maybe there's a case for abolishing runs scored off byes, bat-pads etc. altogether. Batsmen have it good enough as it is.
 

Daemon

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Yeah scoring runs off leg byes is stupid. Rewarding the batting team for missing the ball wtf. Byes should remain though because the keeper ****ed up.
 

vcs

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Sorry, I meant leg-byes and bad-pads, not byes. Byes should remain.
 

vcs

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Bowlers will adopt the "Ashley Giles to Tendulkar" tactic en masse? I think their egos will probably not allow that to happen.

Except for finger spinners of course, who only get batsmen out by making them lose their patience. :ph34r:
 

cnerd123

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Finger spinners can get swept. It's going to be those cowardly fast bowlers who start spearing it into the pads. They have such fragile egos they're constantly trying to bully and intimidate batsmen, and yelling at fielders when their long hops get slapped for four. They'll be the first ones trying to spear it into the batsmen's pads to get a dot ball.
 

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