Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Inclined to agree, probably anti-Ȳorkshire elements reporting him.Conspiracy.
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Jonbrooks chucking Megathread
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wellAlbidarned
International Coach
what a shock. this only gets mentioned every 2 pages on NZ tour threads.
Beamer
International Vice-Captain
Justice has been done, so no more complaints from me. Even if he somehow passes the testing (which he really shouldn't lets face it), the umpires have looked at his action and reported it. That's all I was asking for, a bit of consistency.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Haha I'm not that thick, I meant that it's a running joke among NZ fans that his action is so blatantly suspect. It's the elephant in the room which keeps farting. No complaints here.
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Zinzan
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To be fair, there's been so much ambiguity and chopping & changing around the rules & this whole 15 degrees etc, it's hard to blame anyone other than the ICC powers at be (or their biomechanical experts who supposedly ascertain these things,)
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
I imagine Kane was generally on the winning side. If the other team complained, it's sour grapes. as for his own team, they'd be terrified to ever say a word against him because why would you sabotage your star player? Gotta love NZ sport politics.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Should have happened in first class cricket though - even in Hawke cup.
Haha, that would take one hell of a ballsy umpire to no-ball a future NZ captain in a Hawke Cup game. Even Darryl Hair wouldn't touch that..
Can someone please ban Zinzan for calling the great man's action into question? Flem, make it happen
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
It's not that he should've been no-balled, it's just that NZC should have had him tested by this stage.
We look at the Senanayake example and SLC had him tested before they even picked him, IIRC. Now, it's different because he's a bowler whereas Williamson is a batsman who bowls a bit, but really they should've foreseen this.
We look at the Senanayake example and SLC had him tested before they even picked him, IIRC. Now, it's different because he's a bowler whereas Williamson is a batsman who bowls a bit, but really they should've foreseen this.
Very true. All the quotes I've seen have been along the lines of 'he's been bowling for this long, why are they investigating him now'. Perhaps they felt it was easier to let him fly under the radar, bowl a few overs here and there, and generally arouse no suspicion. There's zero doubt it's an action that requires testing.
Yep, because the law has been changed for Shoaib Akhtar, Shabbir Ahmed, James Kirtley, Johan Botha (twice), Abdur Razzak, Shane Shillingford (twice) and Marlon Samuels, not to mention all those who were reported and not sanctioned -- Saeed Ajmal, Mohammad Hafeez, Jermaine Lawson, Brett Lee, Shoaib Malik, Harbhajan Singh and, somewhat hilariously, current Test umpire Kumar Dharmasena (who spent a year out of the game to remodel his action).
Grant Flower, Shahid Afridi, Henry Olonga, Courtney Walsh and Darren Gough also all had issues. Curtly Ambrose was also no-balled for throwing early in his career.
Lots of law changes for all of them.
So let's assume a conspiracy. From the list above, players from Australia, Bangladesh, England, New Zealand, South Africa, Sri Lanka, India, Pakistan and Zimbabwe have all been implicated. We've got off spinners, leg spinners and pacemen of various speeds all being cited. Some players are successful, others pretty mediocre. Some full-time bowlers, some part-timers.
But only one change to the law coming out of all of this, when the ICC actually bothered to begin biomechanically testing people, which just so happens to coincide with when Murali was called. Definitely got paid off by the SLC, such a huge body flushed with so much cash. The ICC are totally reptilians changing the law to undermine cricket because they all secretly hate it.
I wonder if there was a conspiracy when the LBW law got changed all those years ago. It served fast bowlers pretty well. Or when back foot no balls were abolished; definitely a conspiracy there. Laws change when they become unworkable, or the basis on which they rest is undermined by changing circumstances and/or new information. That goes in both the political and sporting realms.
You wouldn't charge someone under the Witchcraft Act of 1535, much in the way you wouldn't charge a bowler under the old chucking law of zero tolerance for straightening. The basis of both, as we are now aware, is pure fiction.
I ****ing hate conspiracy theories.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
You know nothing jon brooks.
Blocky
Banned
Murali was most definitely a chucker and I don't care what testing he went through or what steel braces he had - to the eye, he was always a thrower.
We're getting to a point with wearable technology that we should be able to design feedback sensors for players who have a suspected action to wear during the match and automatically signal when they've bowled an illegal delivery.
We're getting to a point with wearable technology that we should be able to design feedback sensors for players who have a suspected action to wear during the match and automatically signal when they've bowled an illegal delivery.
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