Future ****Stars**** of Australian Cricket

[Richard]

Inness hasn't been a regular in the Victorian side now for 2 seasons.

Tell me - how is playing 7 games and taking 20 wickets at 28.90 (as Inness did in 2003\04) not being fairly regular?

 

[Richard]

Do we have flat tracks specially prepared for us or would you then have to say that the rest of the World's batsmen are flat track bullies too?

Yes, plenty are, but Australia do tend to play on even more flat decks than everyone else.

 

[Richard]

As mentioned in another post Inness has not played well for Victoria for at least 2 seasons. He would probably be the top bowler for Victoria A at the moment. Who knows he may come back but on current form cannot be rated amongst Australia's top 10 fast bowlers when compared to McGrath, Gillespie, Lee, Kasprowicz, Tait, Wright, Lewis, Bichel, Bracken, Harwood and Griffith. Even Dawes, Nicholson and Clark would be rated higher than Inness.

Adam Griffith, better than Matt Inness...?
Now I've heard it all.

 

[The Argonaut]

Adam Griffith, better than Matt Inness...?
Now I've heard it all.

Have you seen him bowl. I think he shows some promise and has had a good season getting 45 wickets at 29, something Inness hasn't done for a while. There would be no doubt that Griffith would be ahead of Inness in the pecking order of fast bowlers at the moment.

Inness needs to improve enough just to get into the Victorian side on a more regular basis before he can come into calculations of playing test cricket. Maybe he should go to England where he could easily make a county side.

 

[The Argonaut]

Tell me - how is playing 7 games and taking 20 wickets at 28.90 (as Inness did in 2003\04) not being fairly regular?

I wouldn't call taking less than 3 wickets a match setting the house on fire. During that season he was outbowled by 3 other Victorian bowlers - McDonald, Wise and Lewis.

 

[aussie]

aussie

Yes, and because some people (I hardly see it's everyone) are saying it doesn't neccesarily mean it'll happen.
I think Watson could be good, yes, but I don't think he's a great in the Davidson, let alone Miller, mould.

I think he's exceedingly poor and if he wasn't captain would be having his place in Victoria's side questioned.

well who knows richard, he has huge potential and to think that he could actually become has great has either davidson or miller is the exciting prospect that i'm sure all australian fans are looking foward to. Well i wont agrue with u cause i know white is not that poor, he is huge potential and i expect big things from him and his place in victoria's side wouldn't be questioned if he wasn't captain because i'm sure he would be bowling much more and would proe his critics like you wrong.

 

[aussie]

aussie

And another infuriatingly pointless one here.
If you agree, why the hell can't you just not post? Everyone takes silence for assent.

I agree that everyone takes silence for assent, but if i want to post let me what r u goin to do, i dont see anyone else aggravating over this mate, u need calm down and please dont let us now get carried away with no stupid arguement with here to talk cricket so lets keep it that way

 

[Prince EWS]

I agree that everyone takes silence for assent, but if i want to post let me what r u goin to do, i dont see anyone else aggravating over this mate, u need calm down and please dont let us now get carried away with no stupid arguement with here to talk cricket so lets keep it that way

It annoys me too, aussie. Let me ask you this, WHY DO YOU BOTHER posting it if you just agree? Seems like a waste of time to me, and its starting to get on my nerves.

 

[marc71178]

Adam Griffith, better than Matt Inness...?
Now I've heard it all.

Have you seen either of them bowl?

 

[vic_orthdox]

I think he's exceedingly poor and if he wasn't captain would be having his place in Victoria's side questioned

white underwent a raw patch over the first 4 or 5 matches at the start of the year, after which a fair bit of pressure was applied directly upon him. from about december, he had a rather solid year. while he wouldn't have been satisfied with his bowling figures, he scored enough runs and contributed to a number of victoria's victories, while also performing adequately for Australia A. there were plenty of others who were/should have been dropped ahead of white.

matthew inness' problems have stemmed from when he got injured and then had glandular fever during the 2003/04 season, after running through the indian batting order. his replacement allan wise came in and did exceedingly well, and since then inness hasn't had a solid run in the team, coupled with the disgruntlement he showed for being dropped for the pura cup final, when they brought in brendan joseland (a batting all-rounder) to ensure that they wouldn't be bowled out twice, which was the only way they could lose. and when he has he returned to the side he has not looked nearly as threatening as what he was beforehand. hopefully he can have a fantastic year next year, either with victoria or interstate, as he's only 26-27 from memory.

 

[viewnut]

matthew innes, like nathan bracken, is a disgrace to the left armer club. i dont care how many first class wickets or watever the two pie throwers have done, but a true left armer doesnt bowl tripe like either of them. wasim, allan davidson, mullally, sobers, now there are true left arm exponents, bamboozling players with late inswing and deft seam movement away to slips. bracken doesnt know how to and IMO will never "regain" that ability to swing the ball back into the right handers, because his action has been rooted since his days when on contract for bankstown green shield. innes is the same, his action is rooted and all he can do is drift the ball from leg stump onto the pads n get smacked to the fence, like i saw him one day in an ing cup match against the canberra comets. these two are pitiful and im tired of hearing about how they should be playing for australia or any other test nation if theyu could. we saw how tendulkar n sehwag tore bracken apart when they came out here in 2003/04, he cant bowl wit the old ball and tendulkar showed why he should go back and play with balmain n get msacked around by 15 yr olds till he learns to master the art of left arm swing bowling!

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

bracken doesnt know how to and IMO will never "regain" that ability to swing the ball back into the right handers, because his action has been rooted since his days when on contract for bankstown green shield.

Haha. Hilarious that you should say that given that he bowled vicious inswingers to right-handers in the Pura Cup final, in his last match. I mean deliveries which were heading to be practically wides that came back to hit the stumps or get lbws.

 

[aussie]

aussie

matthew innes, like nathan bracken, is a disgrace to the left armer club. i dont care how many first class wickets or watever the two pie throwers have done, but a true left armer doesnt bowl tripe like either of them. wasim, allan davidson, mullally, sobers, now there are true left arm exponents, bamboozling players with late inswing and deft seam movement away to slips. bracken doesnt know how to and IMO will never "regain" that ability to swing the ball back into the right handers, because his action has been rooted since his days when on contract for bankstown green shield. innes is the same, his action is rooted and all he can do is drift the ball from leg stump onto the pads n get smacked to the fence, like i saw him one day in an ing cup match against the canberra comets. these two are pitiful and im tired of hearing about how they should be playing for australia or any other test nation if theyu could. we saw how tendulkar n sehwag tore bracken apart when they came out here in 2003/04, he cant bowl wit the old ball and tendulkar showed why he should go back and play with balmain n get msacked around by 15 yr olds till he learns to master the art of left arm swing bowling!

Mullaly mate i dont recal him being no great left arm bolwer in his time, he was good though, i know about innes, but i dont enough to agrue too much on innes's and his performances so i cant argue too much their but i dont think bracken is has bad has u make him sound he has done well in ODI cricket but even though he didn't do anything big in his debut series againts the indians, i think he is a pretty good, when kasper first came into the australian team he took a while to get his first test wicket and stuggled to even get into the side and many ppl then didn't rate him highly but the bowling kapser did here in england and in australia matured him into to a complete bowler, i would think the same thing could happen to bracken, i dont think he will be great but he when guys like McGrath and Gillespie and Kaper go off the the international stage bowlers like him would mature enough to be a good fast bowler

 

[aussie]

aussie

It annoys me too, aussie. Let me ask you this, WHY DO YOU BOTHER posting it if you just agree? Seems like a waste of time to me, and its starting to get on my nerves.[/QUOTE

gezzzzzzz their are some rough lads in this place, well i'm new to this i didn't know it was such a problem in posting back if u agree with someone's comment, but now i know

 

[Swervy]

It annoys me too, aussie. Let me ask you this, WHY DO YOU BOTHER posting it if you just agree? Seems like a waste of time to me, and its starting to get on my nerves.[/QUOTE

gezzzzzzz their are some rough lads in this place, well i'm new to this i didn't know it was such a problem in posting back if u agree with someone's comment, but now i know

I really wouldnt worry about it...there are far more annoying patterns of behaviour on this forum than you agreeing with people

 

[The Argonaut]

matthew innes, like nathan bracken, is a disgrace to the left armer club. i dont care how many first class wickets or watever the two pie throwers have done, but a true left armer doesnt bowl tripe like either of them. wasim, allan davidson, mullally, sobers, now there are true left arm exponents, bamboozling players with late inswing and deft seam movement away to slips. bracken doesnt know how to and IMO will never "regain" that ability to swing the ball back into the right handers, because his action has been rooted since his days when on contract for bankstown green shield. innes is the same, his action is rooted and all he can do is drift the ball from leg stump onto the pads n get smacked to the fence, like i saw him one day in an ing cup match against the canberra comets. these two are pitiful and im tired of hearing about how they should be playing for australia or any other test nation if theyu could. we saw how tendulkar n sehwag tore bracken apart when they came out here in 2003/04, he cant bowl wit the old ball and tendulkar showed why he should go back and play with balmain n get msacked around by 15 yr olds till he learns to master the art of left arm swing bowling!

It's a bit rich to compare Mullally to Davidson and Akram. he was an honest plodder of a similar quality to Bracken.

Bracken can swing the ball in to the right handers and did so in the Pura Cup Final. In this match he bowled an almost unplayable spell on the 1st day. Admittedly the conditions were in his favour. The problem I have with Bracken is that he doesn't bowl fast enough to be really dangerous. Bowling in the 120s isn't good enough at test level and that was the reason that India punished him. Let's be honest though no one bowled well in that series as the pitches were as flat as they come.

 

[age_master]

Inness only bowls about that quick too

 

[Son Of Coco]

matthew innes, like nathan bracken, is a disgrace to the left armer club. i dont care how many first class wickets or watever the two pie throwers have done, but a true left armer doesnt bowl tripe like either of them. wasim, allan davidson, mullally, sobers, now there are true left arm exponents, bamboozling players with late inswing and deft seam movement away to slips. bracken doesnt know how to and IMO will never "regain" that ability to swing the ball back into the right handers, because his action has been rooted since his days when on contract for bankstown green shield. innes is the same, his action is rooted and all he can do is drift the ball from leg stump onto the pads n get smacked to the fence, like i saw him one day in an ing cup match against the canberra comets. these two are pitiful and im tired of hearing about how they should be playing for australia or any other test nation if theyu could. we saw how tendulkar n sehwag tore bracken apart when they came out here in 2003/04, he cant bowl wit the old ball and tendulkar showed why he should go back and play with balmain n get msacked around by 15 yr olds till he learns to master the art of left arm swing bowling!

wow, this is the sort of post you usually get on another forum I've been known to post on.

Very insightful though, and I have no doubt your comments are backed up by sound knowledge of the game and a cricketing ability second to none.

You're probably right in suggesting Bracken and Inness aren't great like Akram, Davidson etc (I question Mullaly being in the list), but then I don't think anyone said they were.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

You're probably right in suggesting Bracken and Inness aren't great like Akram, Davidson etc (I question Mullaly being in the list), but then I don't think anyone said they were.

Yes, it is a brutal insult, no doubt. Bracken is not as good as the two greatest left arm quicks to ever play the game! Shame!

 

[Mr Casson]

Mullaly mate i dont recal him being no great left arm bolwer in his time, he was good though, i know about innes, but i dont enough to agrue too much on innes's and his performances so i cant argue too much their but i dont think bracken is has bad has u make him sound he has done well in ODI cricket but even though he didn't do anything big in his debut series againts the indians, i think he is a pretty good, when kasper first came into the australian team he took a while to get his first test wicket and stuggled to even get into the side and many ppl then didn't rate him highly but the bowling kapser did here in england and in australia matured him into to a complete bowler, i would think the same thing could happen to bracken, i dont think he will be great but he when guys like McGrath and Gillespie and Kaper go off the the international stage bowlers like him would mature enough to be a good fast bowler

Oh my God, that's all one sentence!