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What's up with Graeme Swann? Decent domestic record and yet completely ignored since he toured South Africa (?) a few years back.
Their is a rumour going around that James Kirtley has sent videos of his action to the pro baseball clubs in the US and Japan and they were most impressed with his pitching action against South Africa a couple of years ago.Link said:Ed Smith
Ian Blackwell (scored a big hundred today)
James Kirtley
Chris Schofield
Richard Johnson (injury ridden)
Rikki Clarke
James Troughton (suposed to be the next big thing)
Anthony McGrath
Richard Dawson (good season last year)
Owais Shah
to name a few
It was a batters paradise, with short boundaries, although the bowling was okay, and he said himself it was better than he expected to me (although he would)... I'd say it was worth a slower 100 against a good county attacktwctopcat said:On the batters paradise at taunton. Don't know what to make of him when he scores like this, i immediately think s*ite bowling.
He played very well in New Zealand, so that's extremely unfair. Adrian Griffith will always be criticized as a poor player because he of how he looked at the crease combined with his lack of runs in Tests. For example, Chanderpaul could score a million runs at domestic level, but if he averaged in the mid20s in Tests, he would probably be called a terrible batsman.howardj said:What ever happened to Adrian Griffith? Surely the most awkward looking batsman ever to play Test Cricket, and one of the worst to come out of West Indies cricket.
I can't see Shah getting in the England team in the near future to be honest.dinu23 said:I think he's in the selectors mind. he toured SL with the England A team, so did O shah.
Sorry thats going in my sig... HahahaMr Mxyzptlk said:Adrian Griffith will always be criticized as a poor player because he of how he looked at the crease combined with his lack of runs
Stick "in Tests" in there at the end and I think I've got a point. Can't help the pedantry though.Langeveldt said:Sorry thats going in my sig... Hahaha
Hehe, why not Liam..Mr Mxyzptlk said:Stick "in Tests" in there at the end and I think I've got a point. Can't help the pedantry though.
Oh, and you do not want to start the whole "I'll quote you in my sig" thing with me. You have been warned.
The downside of my plot for revenge is that I now have to read the majority of your posts...Langeveldt said:Hehe, why not Liam..
Maybe not the Test side but i can see him getting into the ODI side if some players don't step up and he has a good season in the National League.marc71178 said:I can't see Shah getting in the England team in the near future to be honest.
Yeah, lack of runs does generally mean that you're a poor player!Mr Mxyzptlk said:He played very well in New Zealand, so that's extremely unfair. Adrian Griffith will always be criticized as a poor player because he of how he looked at the crease combined with his lack of runs in Tests
No, lack of Test runs means you failed at Test level. Graeme Hick was by no means a poor player. Daren Ganga is not a poor player. They're Test failures, but not at all poor batsmen.howardj said:Yeah, lack of runs does generally mean that you're a poor player!
Obviously it depends on the yardstick one uses. I mostly watch international cricket, and judge players according to how they perform on that stage. You could go on forever....a player who fails in English FC cricket, but kicks butt in League cricket, is not necessarily a bad batsman, but just a failure at FC level.Mr Mxyzptlk said:No, lack of Test runs means you failed at Test level. Graeme Hick was by no means a poor player. Daren Ganga is not a poor player. They're Test failures, but not at all poor batsmen.
A batsman such as Adrian Griffith (and Hick and Ganga for that matter) have shown what they can do (positives) at the highest level though. They may not have shown it consistently, but the evidence was there on occasion. That, in my mind, proves such players CAN bat. They just don't always do so.howardj said:Obviously it depends on the yardstick one uses. I mostly watch international cricket, and judge players according to how they perform on that stage. You could go on forever....a player who fails in English FC cricket, but kicks butt in League cricket, is not necessarily a bad batsman, but just a failure at FC level.
Yeah, it proves they can bat, but still they are poor players, in the context of Test cricket, which - as I stated above - is the yardstick I (and quite a few other casual observers) use to judge players.Mr Mxyzptlk said:A batsman such as Adrian Griffith (and Hick and Ganga for that matter) have shown what they can do (positives) at the highest level though. They may not have shown it consistently, but the evidence was there on occasion. That, in my mind, proves such players CAN bat. They just don't always do so.
Where exactly would he fit in?chaminda_00 said:Maybe not the Test side but i can see him getting into the ODI side if some players don't step up and he has a good season in the National League.
Collingwood and Vaughan aren't that much infront of him, if Vaughan up to playing ODI then i'll eat my computer. The guy is useless in that form, if it wasn't for his captaincy he would and should have been dropped a long time ago.marc71178 said:Where exactly would he fit in?
6 batsmen - Trescothick, Strauss, Vaughan, Pietersen, Flintoff, Collingwood then a keeper.