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England Provisional and final World Cup Squads
- Thread starter Jarquis
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Mr. Glass
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I find it quite hilarious that England have about 4000 injuries currently but Wright and Tredwell still aren't in the eleven they're playing.
I mean, even if it'd throw the balance off (which at this stage it wouldn't anyway), surely it'd be of more use to give these blokes some game-time. If it means Wright playing as a frontline bowler or Tredwell batting seven then, sure, you'll probably lose, but it'd be good to get these guys playing important roles in preparation for the World Cup. I just have no clue why they are there at all at this point, Tredwell especially. His only utility in the squad is a backup to Swann in case he gets injured, and even though Swann's injured right now they still aren't playing him - what's the point?
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
You're preaching to the converted, mate.
It's like our selectors only have so much acumen to use and exhausted it during the Ashes.
Like today's game with Prior at #6, even if he makes a match winning ton from there you know bloody well come the opening game he'll be opening. Badly.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
The suggestion seems to be that Morgan will be missing from the WC, and therefore Davies will come into the squad and open with Prior slipping down.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Probably just regretting picking Prior and looking for an out. You've still got Collingwood to come in for Morgan if you assume Yardy's booked #7.
Surely we have better batting options to bring in than Davies?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Davies is one of the best OD bats in the country.
Surely we have better batting options to bring in than Davies?
Julian87
State Captain
Am I the only **** around that thinks the obvious solution is to move Ian Bell up to open with Strauss?
Honestly think he is pretty much wasted batting #5 below Trott and Pieterson.
Strauss
Bell
Trott
Pieterson
Collingwood
Prior
IMO
Howe_zat
Audio File
Why move Trott when he's been a success at 3?
The no. 3 position is much more suited to Trott's style of play. You typically come in after 5-10 overs of powerplay and are expected to keep the scoreboard ticking over for 20-30 overs before trying to accelerate.
No-one else has had success there for England in ODIs, KP has been much more effective at 4-5, even though this is mostly his general drop in performance recently.
I'd rather see at least one aggressive batsman having a go in the first 10 overs.
The no. 3 position is much more suited to Trott's style of play. You typically come in after 5-10 overs of powerplay and are expected to keep the scoreboard ticking over for 20-30 overs before trying to accelerate.
No-one else has had success there for England in ODIs, KP has been much more effective at 4-5, even though this is mostly his general drop in performance recently.
I'd rather see at least one aggressive batsman having a go in the first 10 overs.
Woodster
International Captain
Yes good point as to why you would move someone that's performed well in a particular position into another spot. My reasoning would be this - you aren't moving Trott into a position that is alien to him, he has performed very capably at the top of the order for Warwickshire and because he is a very good player I do not expect it would effect his performances by moving up a spot. The fach he was in before 10 overs had been completed in five of the seven ODI's in the recent series, suggests he's effectively been operating as an opening batsman anyway, four times before five overs have been negotiated.
Also his success has come in Australia, pitches I think that suit his style much more than the sub-continental pitches do. He likes pace on the ball, which you can generally get throughout the innings in Oz. In the WC, sides are likely to revert to pace off the ball as soon as the powerplays are done, even earlier at times. If Trott can get in while pace is on the ball, get some runs under his belt while it's coming onto the bat, it may ease any problems he could encounter against the slower bowlers.
He seems our key man in batting through an innings, letting players bat around him, therefore let us get him in as soon as possible.
I believe KP can be effective at three. Has the game to take advantage of the early powerplays and giving him the responsibilty to bat there, we may see a positive response from him. I appreciate he may have underperformed in this position previously, but now we are not as reliant upon him to score big and be mainly responsible for us scoring quickly, he may actually feel a freedom to play a more natural game.
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Woodster
International Captain
Big blow for us to lose Morgan, his innovative style enabling him to manoeuver the slow bowlers around, and almost tease the captain with his ability to find the gaps, and the stands.
Bopara will add an extra medium-paced bowling dimension, and for me is supremely talented. Strikes the ball nicely but not as effective as Morgan coming in towards the end of an innings. Ideally needs time to build his innings, but has played one or two impressive impact innings for us in time gone by.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Bloody hell, you know times are hard when we're reduced to calling up native-born Englishmen.
Seriously tho, I think it's Ravi's bowling at least as much as his batting that's got him the nod. With Colly no longer a nailed on starter and Trott's dobbers maybe not being up to snuff the Essex man's improving mediums might be a handy option.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I suppose it then mean's we're cobbling 10 from Trott, Colly, KP and Ravi.
To be honest I'd say that's overkill and would've picked a proper batsman rather than Ravi but have realised that we don't actually have anyone really (unless Davies were to be picked as a specialist) - but the problem is we need a lower-middle order player, which he doesn't fill.
To be honest I'd say that's overkill and would've picked a proper batsman rather than Ravi but have realised that we don't actually have anyone really (unless Davies were to be picked as a specialist) - but the problem is we need a lower-middle order player, which he doesn't fill.