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England Provisional and final World Cup Squads

Jacknife

International Captain
batting strike rates in India

Sehwag 104.64 Gambhir 88.83
Amla 96.80 Smith 94.59
Dilshan 95.90 Tharanga 81.98
Gayle 94.29
Watson 85.71 Haddin 82.30

Strauss 72.50 Prior 61.96 :)
The last time Strauss played one day cricket in India was back in 2005/6.
Just as you think this WC start can't get any worse, Morgan's out and with still a few more players to decide the fitness on.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Morgan will be a really big blow for England.

As it is they lack players who can score really quick and lose one of the 2 who have expreience of playing in India plus can score quick runs and hit big.
 

King Pietersen

International Captain
Strauss
Bell
Trott
Pietersen
Prior
Bopara
Yardy
Bresnan
Broad
Swann
Anderson

Looks a pretty solid side to me. Can see Bell and Prior being switched around, and Collingwood playing ahead of Bopara, but that's the XI I'd go with. I think Ravi'll go well in the subcontinent. Good player of spin, a very capable finisher of an innings, and with the ball he's a wicket taker. Good selection IMO, just so long as they don't insist on him opening.
 

King Pietersen

International Captain
Haha, gotta support my boy Ravi. Biased, definitely, but I'm a loyal Bopara fan at least. Should never have been dropped after his last stint in the side TBH. Gun player. :ph34r:
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Haha, gotta support my boy Ravi. Biased, definitely, but I'm a loyal Bopara fan at least. Should never have been dropped after his last stint in the side TBH. Gun player. :ph34r:
Well, he definitely shouldn't have been dropped while Luke Wright was retained, anyway. He's better than Wright at everything bar death bowling (which Wright never gets called on to do anyway). Whether there are better options than both is debatable though, of course.
 

Howe_zat

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Strauss
Bell
Trott
Pietersen
Prior
Bopara
Yardy
Bresnan
Broad
Swann
Anderson

Looks a pretty solid side to me. Can see Bell and Prior being switched around, and Collingwood playing ahead of Bopara, but that's the XI I'd go with. I think Ravi'll go well in the subcontinent. Good player of spin, a very capable finisher of an innings, and with the ball he's a wicket taker. Good selection IMO, just so long as they don't insist on him opening.
That's the change I'd make. Much better record with bat and ball.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
Strauss
Bell
Trott
Pietersen
Prior
Bopara
Yardy
Bresnan
Broad
Swann
Anderson

Looks a pretty solid side to me. Can see Bell and Prior being switched around, and Collingwood playing ahead of Bopara, but that's the XI I'd go with. I think Ravi'll go well in the subcontinent. Good player of spin, a very capable finisher of an innings, and with the ball he's a wicket taker. Good selection IMO, just so long as they don't insist on him opening.
Yes, it does look a solid side, but Morgan will be a massive miss for us in the WC. As long as we get get all these players on the field we should be OK, but if we get any injuries or we can't get out full team on the field, I'd hate to see some of our pack ups playing.
England have done well in One Day Cricket because we have a good first eleven players and have been able to pick the same side, there or there abouts, for the past 18 months or so, but as we found out, we lack depth, especially in the batting and the spin department. Like I said, that is mostly down to having a settled side and not needing to use lots of players, but at the same time, there's not many guys pushing for selection.
I'd like us, over the next year or so, to start introducing some young guys into the one day team and start getting some more depth to the side. It's something that Australia have over us , is the strength and depth of batting in their one day team, they've got far more players, who have had experience of International One day Cricket and who are able to step in when injuries occur, they're also pushing the first team players for selection.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I reckon Bopara will just be a reserve. Collingwood and Yardy will both play.
Not convinced Yardy will play once Swann's properly fit myself. Even at the SCG we seemed very unwilling to go down the two specialist spinners route.

Although that may just be a reflection on the esteem in which Tredwell is held by the two Andys.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Yeah, it's sods law that while Swann, Colly, Morgan, Broad and Bresnan all get injured, Luke Wright and James Tredwell remain totally clear and fit for selection.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Yeah, it's sods law that while Swann, Colly, Morgan, Broad and Bresnan all get injured, Luke Wright and James Tredwell remain totally clear and fit for selection.
Yeah but it's hard to get injured serving drinks!
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
We've named Tremlett as standby, and he's going to travel with the squad as cover in case one of the other quicks doesn't recover - sensible decision I reckon.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Not convinced Yardy will play once Swann's properly fit myself. Even at the SCG we seemed very unwilling to go down the two specialist spinners route.

Although that may just be a reflection on the esteem in which Tredwell is held by the two Andys.
But they played in 4 of the 5 ODIs together against Pak and that's when all the frontline seamers were fit. Though KP didn't feature in that series, so they could have him bowling the second spinner quota overs in the WC.
 

L Trumper

State Regular
Strauss
Bell
Trott
Pietersen
Prior
Bopara
Yardy
Bresnan
Broad
Swann
Anderson

Looks a pretty solid side to me. Can see Bell and Prior being switched around, and Collingwood playing ahead of Bopara, but that's the XI I'd go with. I think Ravi'll go well in the subcontinent. Good player of spin, a very capable finisher of an innings, and with the ball he's a wicket taker. Good selection IMO, just so long as they don't insist on him opening.
How the hell does people think that as solid side in sub-continet?
Only top 4 in that side can be qualified as LO batsmen, among them
Strauss' ODI form away from home is mediocore
Despite all the praise heaped on him, Bell didn't really crack it in the way everyone thinks he is, besides he seems to be too text book on SC wickets and generally does premeditated bull**** against spin to get out in soft manners
Trott is the only player team can really rely on but he never played in SC(failed in ban), still he should make runs
KP is just getting back to some ODI form.
Another weakness is out of these top4 Strauss,KP / Trott,KP partnerships were never prolific for whatever reason

Now into 5,6,7
Prior, RavBop, Yardy : I am pretty sure colly will play ahead of either bop or yardy. But if colly's **** form continued then you can't expect more than 50 runs from these three positions consistently.

Bowling seems pretty good : But have a feeling Bresnan will get hit around the park. Broad's knack of getting wickets is v.important. Swann can be effective as ever. But Anderson might be a bit of hit and miss.

But overall batting seems ****ing weak and dire. Strong tail but its a long one starting at 5.
To really exceed expectations like in CT 09
At least two batsmen should have a blinder of tournament [ala shah (vs SA), and colly in CT 09]
I expect opposition teams to score around 300 against ENG. To win those games mean trott has to continue in the same way and hope for either KP to get back to his best, seems unlikely or bell to have a coming of age tournament ala cook in the ashes, won't happen.


Hopefully I will be proven wrong, and prior, bopara, yardy will strike @150 in PPs and win all the games for England. :ph34r:
 

Woodster

International Captain
How the hell does people think that as solid side in sub-continet?
Only top 4 in that side can be qualified as LO batsmen, among them
Strauss' ODI form away from home is mediocore
Despite all the praise heaped on him, Bell didn't really crack it in the way everyone thinks he is, besides he seems to be too text book on SC wickets and generally does premeditated bull**** against spin to get out in soft manners
Trott is the only player team can really rely on but he never played in SC(failed in ban), still he should make runs
KP is just getting back to some ODI form.
Another weakness is out of these top4 Strauss,KP / Trott,KP partnerships were never prolific for whatever reason

Now into 5,6,7
Prior, RavBop, Yardy : I am pretty sure colly will play ahead of either bop or yardy. But if colly's **** form continued then you can't expect more than 50 runs from these three positions consistently.

Bowling seems pretty good : But have a feeling Bresnan will get hit around the park. Broad's knack of getting wickets is v.important. Swann can be effective as ever. But Anderson might be a bit of hit and miss.

But overall batting seems ****ing weak and dire. Strong tail but its a long one starting at 5.
To really exceed expectations like in CT 09
At least two batsmen should have a blinder of tournament [ala shah (vs SA), and colly in CT 09]
I expect opposition teams to score around 300 against ENG. To win those games mean trott has to continue in the same way and hope for either KP to get back to his best, seems unlikely or bell to have a coming of age tournament ala cook in the ashes, won't happen.


Hopefully I will be proven wrong, and prior, bopara, yardy will strike @150 in PPs and win all the games for England. :ph34r:
Easy with the over-optimism. Presumably you've installed us as strong favourites for the tournament ?

While there is a degree of reality in some of your observations, you have also identified the worse case scenario in a lot of the selections. While I don't propose we're going to win the WC, I do expect we'll produce a better showing than what you are expecting. On the other hand, what do I know!
 

Jacknife

International Captain
How the hell does people think that as solid side in sub-continet?
Only top 4 in that side can be qualified as LO batsmen, among them
Strauss' ODI form away from home is mediocore
Despite all the praise heaped on him, Bell didn't really crack it in the way everyone thinks he is, besides he seems to be too text book on SC wickets and generally does premeditated bull**** against spin to get out in soft manners
Trott is the only player team can really rely on but he never played in SC(failed in ban), still he should make runs
KP is just getting back to some ODI form.
Another weakness is out of these top4 Strauss,KP / Trott,KP partnerships were never prolific for whatever reason

Now into 5,6,7
Prior, RavBop, Yardy : I am pretty sure colly will play ahead of either bop or yardy. But if colly's **** form continued then you can't expect more than 50 runs from these three positions consistently.

Bowling seems pretty good : But have a feeling Bresnan will get hit around the park. Broad's knack of getting wickets is v.important. Swann can be effective as ever. But Anderson might be a bit of hit and miss.

But overall batting seems ****ing weak and dire. Strong tail but its a long one starting at 5.
To really exceed expectations like in CT 09
At least two batsmen should have a blinder of tournament
[ala shah (vs SA), and colly in CT 09]
I expect opposition teams to score around 300 against ENG. To win those games mean trott has to continue in the same way and hope for either KP to get back to his best, seems unlikely or bell to have a coming of age tournament ala cook in the ashes, won't happen.


Hopefully I will be proven wrong, and prior, bopara, yardy will strike @150 in PPs and win all the games for England. :ph34r:
Like all teams that will get far, it's going to take a few of the batsmen and bowlers to have great tournaments and that's what it's always about at WC, the teams with the most amount of form players ,win. Like in last years 20/20 WC, who'd have thought we could win before the start, nobody did, I know it's not the same format, but very similar conditions and the point is still the same. If you can get on any kind of roll on and players find good form and start enjoying themselves, they'll do well. If the players come to the table, like they have done in the past 18 months or so and play to their potential, we should do quite well.
 

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