Do You Like To Talk About Cricket?

[Jungle Jumbo]

You may get away from the statistical bull****, but by-and-large as pointed-out you also pretty much get away from stats full-stop, and without stats there's not a great deal of point having cricket-related discussions IMO.

You don't have to be having structured arguments though. I get much more enjoyment out of general discussions - the non-scientific side of the game.

 

[slowfinger]

Yeah pretty much the same I don't talk about stats unless needed to prove a point otherwise they are useless.

 

[GIMH]

Don't see how there's no point in talking about cricket if stats aren't involved, am I missing something?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Don't see how there's no point in talking about cricket if stats aren't involved, am I missing something?

No, but a certain other poster might be.

Cricket's a sport, not a comparitive science. Stats can have a part to play in discussions, but they can't encapsulate how watching cricket can make one feel. That moment of stunned despair on Thursday when Belly edge the first ball of Morkel's spell thru to the slips and the relief-tinged elation when Onions was able to safely let the same bowler's last ball safely pass him by. Stats would tell you it was just another dot ball, but it was so much more than that.

 

[zaremba]

No, but a certain other poster might be.

Cricket's a sport, not a comparitive science. Stats can have a part to play in discussions, but they can't encapsulate how watching cricket can make one feel. That moment of stunned despair on Thursday when Belly edge the first ball of Morkel's spell thru to the slips and the relief-tinged elation when Onions was able to safely let the same bowler's last ball safely pass him by. Stats would tell you it was just another dot ball, but it was so much more than that.

One Nil. Now that's a stat.

 

[Richard]

You don't have to be having structured arguments though. I get much more enjoyment out of general discussions - the non-scientific side of the game.

Personally I get equal enjoyment out of both (wouldn't bother having one or the other if I didn't enjoy said TBH).

 

[Richard]

Don't see how there's no point in talking about cricket if stats aren't involved, am I missing something?

Because numbers are an irrevocable part of the game of cricket. Obviously not all discussions will revolve around using said numbers to prove who's better than who but without numbers there is no cricket.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah but seriously, when me and my best mate talk cricket we hardly talk stats. We talk about how patheticall;y stressed I got when it looked like Ponting and Hussey were gonna bat forever on the last day of the Ashes. We talk about the day the Pakistan crowd flocked in to see Afridi only for Flintoff to dismantle him first ball. We talk about winning in the dark in karachi. We do not talk about averages and strike rates, hardly ever

 

[Richard]

And that's the sort of discussion I only ever have from time to time and fleetingly... before moving on to discussions where stats are heavily involved.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah - nothing wrong with that - just that I dispute the notion that it's pointless to discuss cricket without stats

 

[Richard]

Which is why I only said it's pretty pointless for me to discuss it. The sort of stuff you're talking about is stuff I only find can be discussed on a brief basis.

 

[GIMH]

TBF you said:

You may get away from the statistical bull****, but by-and-large as pointed-out you also pretty much get away from stats full-stop, and without stats there's not a great deal of point having cricket-related discussions IMO.

which to me indicated that you felt any non-stats cricket discussions were pointless. But if you just meant for yourself, then fair enough

 

[Richard]

They're pointless for me. Obviously, what has point for anyone else is not for me to decide.

 

[Pothas]

You may get away from the statistical bull****, but by-and-large as pointed-out you also pretty much get away from stats full-stop, and without stats there's not a great deal of point having cricket-related discussions IMO.

This is why I don't think you will ever really enjoy the game, you can have a great discussion about cricket without debating who is a better player or whatever it is that needs stats.

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

All cricketing conversation in Australia involves variations of how **** Shane Watson is, so what do you think?

 

[Top_Cat]

All cricketing conversation in Australia involves variations of how **** Shane Watson is, so what do you think?

Yeah but at least he's coming good. Being an SA fan will always be painful....

 

[NUFAN]

All cricketing conversation in Australia involves variations of how **** Shane Watson is, so what do you think?

Is the word s-exy not allowed on these forums? **** - I guess it's not.

 

[Richard]

This is why I don't think you will ever really enjoy the game

What you mean I think is "I don't think you will ever really enjoy the game in the manner which I do". Enjoyment is a personal thing and different people find different things to enjoy about the same thing.

you can have a great discussion about cricket without debating who is a better player or whatever it is that needs stats.

You can, as I say, but when I'm involved I don't tend to find such discussions last more than a minute or two.

 

[pasag]

All cricketing conversation in Australia involves variations of how **** Shane Watson is, so what do you think?

Haha, so true and when he's doing well it becomes about how much of a **** he is.

 

[Pothas]

What you mean I think is "I don't think you will ever really enjoy the game in the manner which I do". Enjoyment is a personal thing and different people find different things to enjoy about the same thing.

You can, as I say, but when I'm involved I don't tend to find such discussions last more than a minute or two.

Yeah fair enough, it is not really meant to be a crticism, it always seems that you see cricket more as a study, nothing wrong with that though.