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Badrinath Speaks Out

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Badrinath might be a success or he might be a failure, but the Indian Selectors have to at least give him a go. He's earned it.
This.

I said it in the tour thread, if he isn't called up for our next Test series I'm supporting the opposition. The guy's paid his dues and keeps on churning out the runs at all levels yet is consistently overlooked.

Badri said:
For god's sake, allow me to fail,If I am unable to prove my worth at the international arena, I will never say anything and be a fringe player all my life. But I deserve one chance.

Forget Emerging Players Trophy, I have scored heavily during the A series against Australia and South Africa earlier and the only player to have done better than me in domestic competitions is Gautam Gambhir, when Manoj Tiwary went for the tri-series in Australia earlier this year, I was intrigued. Still, I tried to keep my cool. Now it's Virat Kohli. This is really going nowhere.
He's got the situation absolutley spot on there as well. I wouldn't have blamed him for going to the ICL if he chose to last year but at least now with the IPL he'll still be paid well enough even if he inexplicably never makes the Indian squad during his career.

In all honesty, I've given up hope for him.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Well all I can say is I hope Badrinath despite what he has said doesn't give up, because he won't make it in the end and won't deserve his spot.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Yes, but it was between him and Virat Kohli for the spot in the OD team and Badrinath performed better than Kohli in the recent Emerging Players Tournament (the basis for Kohli's selection) as well as performing well in OD cricket prior to that.
Even if you take away age out of question. You don't think the type of player Kohli is made a slight difference. Considering Kohli replaced Uthappa you would have thought the selectors were looking for someone who could provide backup at the top of order and preferably aggressive. Badrinath at his best in ODers in lower middle order and is more of steady batsmen. He has improved his aggression out of sight in the last couple seasons but it is still below par.

Though if that the role they want for that spot in the squad I would have gone with Shikhar Dhawan. He has a more proven OD domestic record then Badrinath or Kohli. He is perfect for aggressive top order backup role. Given a chance I reckon he would be able to also do a job down the order.
 

irfan

State Captain
There's a society?
See sig duffs. Glad Zac's joined.

I am glad that Badri spoke about his non-selection. Let the selectors know he is not happy with the way they are treating him. I can understand why India would want a youth policy for ODI's but that doesn't mean you completely disregard anyone who falls outside this age category even if they are much better equipped, because Badri's clearly the best batsman outside the Indian nationals. Haven't the Indians learned from Australia, pick the best side now NOT potentially the best side five years from now.

Having said this, I do think Badri will get his chance in the near future with both Sourav and Rahul on their last legs. However if he gets inexplicably snubbed again, I'm with duffer on this - supporting the opposition.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Badrinath can surely replace Yuvraj now, can't he? Getting out to part-time bowlers, playing out series of dot balls, struggling to field at mid-on- clearly, Badri can do so much better now, can't he?
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
if they view that he is taking a shot at them, then Badrinath has burnt all of his bridges with the selectors.
after making such a statement he has probably killed even his slightest chance of playing for India, because Indians selectors just don't like being criticised
Who are they to say otherwise? There has been a history of shocking selections and omissions in this team, and this is just one more.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Who are they to say otherwise? There has been a history of shocking selections and omissions in this team, and this is just one more.
I agree, nothing was being achieved when he was silent. I'm glad he's spoken out now, maybe this is what he needs in order to get noticed?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Even I thought Badrinath would make the side but I dont thinkl of his being dropped as such a massive catastrophe. Yes he was getting runs in the domestic cricket but that alone has never been enough to guarantee the quality of a cricketer. There are plenty of cases of players who have outscored most and yet proved quite ordinary at the highest level.

I am not saying this to run Badri or his case down but just to put the mere arguments based on first class statistics in perspective.

Badrinath should have been in the side because he "looks' like a class act while scoring the runs he does. He should be there because India's famous batsmen are on their last legs and we need to start thinking of new blood fairly soon. It would be a good idea to give those youngsters who are knocking the loudest, and Badri is a leading one, some chances so that the chaff can be separated from the wheat. Maybe he will be successful and a big hit, maybe not but we need to find out some time soon. Thats why he has a case. Not just because he has the second best batting average in first class cricket after Gautam Gambhir.

That just shows that he is good enough for our domestic circuit, given its standards.

I am sure he will get his chance soon. But if he keeps feeding the scoop-hungry media with this kind of reactions, he isn't going to do his chances any great favour.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Even I thought Badrinath would make the side but I dont thinkl of his being dropped as such a massive catastrophe. Yes he was getting runs in the domestic cricket but that alone has never been enough to guarantee the quality of a cricketer. There are plenty of cases of players who have outscored most and yet proved quite ordinary at the highest level.

I am not saying this to run Badri or his case down but just to put the mere arguments based on first class statistics in perspective.

Badrinath should have been in the side because he "looks' like a class act while scoring the runs he does. He should be there because India's famous batsmen are on their last legs and we need to start thinking of new blood fairly soon. It would be a good idea to give those youngsters who are knocking the loudest, and Badri is a leading one, some chances so that the chaff can be separated from the wheat. Maybe he will be successful and a big hit, maybe not but we need to find out some time soon. Thats why he has a case. Not just because he has the second best batting average in first class cricket after Gautam Gambhir.

That just shows that he is good enough for our domestic circuit, given its standards.

I am sure he will get his chance soon. But if he keeps feeding the scoop-hungry media with this kind of reactions, he isn't going to do his chances any great favour.
You're right it's not enough to guarantee success but it's enough to deserve a chance. Just like in England, what does this scenario do to the current domestic cricketers when they know that even if they play excellently for years there is still a chance they'll get leapfrogged for no reason at all. The message needs to be sent do the hard work, produce the goods and you'll get picked. Not do the hard work and then we'll have a lottery deciding who we want.

And him speaking to the media may not do him any favours but neither will staying quiet which has seen him being overlooked again and again and again.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
You're right it's not enough to guarantee success but it's enough to deserve a chance. Just like in England, what does this scenario do to the current domestic cricketers when they know that even if they play excellently for years there is still a chance they'll get leapfrogged for no reason at all. The message needs to be sent do the hard work, produce the goods and you'll get picked. Not do the hard work and then we'll have a lottery deciding who we want.

And him speaking to the media may not do him any favours but neither will staying quiet which has seen him being overlooked again and again and again.
I have said he SHOULD have been on this side.

As for 'again' and'again' and 'again' ..... well I am not so sure of how many sides he shopuld have been on before this and in whose place.

Its a matter of personal opinion I suppose, and a wee bit of hindsight.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Even I thought Badrinath would make the side but I dont thinkl of his being dropped as such a massive catastrophe. Yes he was getting runs in the domestic cricket but that alone has never been enough to guarantee the quality of a cricketer. There are plenty of cases of players who have outscored most and yet proved quite ordinary at the highest level.

I am not saying this to run Badri or his case down but just to put the mere arguments based on first class statistics in perspective.

Badrinath should have been in the side because he "looks' like a class act while scoring the runs he does. He should be there because India's famous batsmen are on their last legs and we need to start thinking of new blood fairly soon. It would be a good idea to give those youngsters who are knocking the loudest, and Badri is a leading one, some chances so that the chaff can be separated from the wheat. Maybe he will be successful and a big hit, maybe not but we need to find out some time soon. Thats why he has a case. Not just because he has the second best batting average in first class cricket after Gautam Gambhir.

That just shows that he is good enough for our domestic circuit, given its standards.

I am sure he will get his chance soon. But if he keeps feeding the scoop-hungry media with this kind of reactions, he isn't going to do his chances any great favour.
I agree with you, but it must be said that selecting a not ready Virat Kohli over Badrinath really was the last straw for him. It clearly shows some sort of bias within the selectors against Tamil Nadu cricketers and I'm saying this and I was born in New Delhi. It's terrible to see and it's hampering Indian Cricket. Unless Virat has a blinder of a debut series and proves me wrong, this is possibly the worst ODI selection in quite some time.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
As for 'again' and'again' and 'again' ..... well I am not so sure of how many sides he shopuld have been on before this and in whose place.
He should have been in the side ahead of the likes of Suresh Rain, Uhtapa, Manoj Tiwary and now Virat Kohli
 

adharcric

International Coach
Even I thought Badrinath would make the side but I dont thinkl of his being dropped as such a massive catastrophe. Yes he was getting runs in the domestic cricket but that alone has never been enough to guarantee the quality of a cricketer. There are plenty of cases of players who have outscored most and yet proved quite ordinary at the highest level.

I am not saying this to run Badri or his case down but just to put the mere arguments based on first class statistics in perspective.

Badrinath should have been in the side because he "looks' like a class act while scoring the runs he does. He should be there because India's famous batsmen are on their last legs and we need to start thinking of new blood fairly soon. It would be a good idea to give those youngsters who are knocking the loudest, and Badri is a leading one, some chances so that the chaff can be separated from the wheat. Maybe he will be successful and a big hit, maybe not but we need to find out some time soon. Thats why he has a case. Not just because he has the second best batting average in first class cricket after Gautam Gambhir.

That just shows that he is good enough for our domestic circuit, given its standards.

I am sure he will get his chance soon. But if he keeps feeding the scoop-hungry media with this kind of reactions, he isn't going to do his chances any great favour.
He does look like a class act but at least a few on here who have brought up his FC record have alluded not just to domestic performances but also to consistent scores for India A against quality opposition. Essentially though, it's the fact that he even looks like a classy cricketer that makes his exclusion all the more surprising.
 
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adharcric

International Coach
I have said he SHOULD have been on this side.

As for 'again' and'again' and 'again' ..... well I am not so sure of how many sides he shopuld have been on before this and in whose place.

Its a matter of personal opinion I suppose, and a wee bit of hindsight.
Certainly not hindsight. Many have been calling for Badrinath's inclusion for a while now - I'd say he first had a strong case for a test call-up in South Africa whereas his case in one-day cricket has strengthened more recently, probably once Dravid was dropped.
 
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SJS

Hall of Fame Member
I agree with you, but it must be said that selecting a not ready Virat Kohli over Badrinath really was the last straw for him. It clearly shows some sort of bias within the selectors against Tamil Nadu cricketers and I'm saying this and I was born in New Delhi. It's terrible to see and it's hampering Indian Cricket. Unless Virat has a blinder of a debut series and proves me wrong, this is possibly the worst ODI selection in quite some time.
Agreed. It was a big surprise to see Kohli being 'rewarded' as it were for the Under 19 win.

But Badrinath should have known (or have been better advised) to accept this kind of 'glitches' from Indian selectors. Much much bigger names than his have been treated like this, some after years of proven performances. For a youngster to talk as he has done, does not speak well of him I am afraid. This is highly reminiscent of Yuvraj and even from him and his great potential as a cricketer, it struck a very jarring note.

Sorry. I do not have anything but criticism for Badri's remarks. If he had said to the media, or whosoever asked for his comments, something on the lines, "I have scored runs in the past and I will try to continue doing the same in the future. Thats my job and I can only do my job to the best of my abilities.. The selectors have a job of their own and they have to do theirs."
The point would have still been made. His claim would not have become weaker and he would have looked like a mature and serious cricketer whose time will surely come and cant be denied perpetually.
 

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