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ATVG Draft

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Anybody who bowled in >1.5 innings per Test is an allrounder IMO

So Allrounders: Greig, Faulkner, Worrell, Barlow, McCabe

Non Allrounders: Jayasuriya, Gayle, Simpson, Dexter, Matthews, Waugh, Walters, Macartney, Edrich, Cowper,
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Anybody who bowled in >1.5 innings per Test is an allrounder IMO

So Allrounders: Greig, Faulkner, Worrell, Barlow, McCabe

Non Allrounders: Jayasuriya, Gayle, Simpson, Dexter, Matthews, Waugh, Walters, Macartney, Edrich, Cowper,
Which Matthews (Angelo or Greg)?
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Both would be batsmen by my definition
GM bowled in 47 inns in 33 games (1.42)
AM bowled in 81 inns in 86 matches (0.94)
 

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
Both would be batsmen by my definition
GM bowled in 47 inns in 33 games (1.42)
AM bowled in 81 inns in 86 matches (0.94)
See I don’t like that definition, for Matthews for example he was bowling an average of 22 overs in each of those innings, and taking more than a wicket an innings, sounds more like an allrounder than a batsman who bowls to me.
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I initially thought even one innings per Test might be a good cut off tbh. But thought others may think it too harsh

Means you lose Gayle and Jayasuriya though
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Greg Matthews is a perfect example of an ATVG player, who unfortunately is not available for this draft. He started as an average offspinnner that became a great #7 batsmen averaging over 40.

Is he an ATG, no. Is he an ATVG, definitely:)
 

trundler

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I don't think Botham meets the loosely defined criteria we do have (20s average with ball as AR) and he's a top 10 ATG too lol
 

ataraxia

International Coach
I'm going to pick WG Grace here - given his 9 wickets in 22 matches. I don't know where to get innings-bowled-in figures,
 

aussie tragic

International Captain
Here's an update

Teuton - Andy Roberts, Ben Stokes, Mahela Jayawardene, Trent Boult
trundler - Clem Hill, Neil Harvey, Shoaib Akhtar
ataraxia - Maurice Tate, WG Grace
honestbharani - Shakib Al Hasan, Andrew Flintoff, Shane Watson, Chris Gayle
Line and Length - Bob Willis, Brian McMillan, Glenn Turner, MS Dhoni
Flem - Heath Streak, Tamim Iqbal, Sanath Jayasuriya
Fuller Pilch - Victor Trumper, Mushfiqur Rahim, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Neil Wagner
Coronis - Alan Knott, James Andersen, Rangana Herath, Stan McCabe
Kingkallis - Gordon Greenidge, John Snow, Jeff Thomson
aussie tragic - Martin Crowe, Mark Boucher, Chaminda Vaas, Desmond Haynes
mr_mister - Frank Worrell*, Harold Larwood, Anil Kumble

* awaiting allrounder criteria decision from Shri whereby Mr_mister has offered to swap Worrell for Gooch
 
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mr_mister

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Here's an update

Teuton - Andy Roberts, Ben Stokes, Mahela Jayawardene
trundler - Clem Hill, Neil Harvey, Shoaib Akhtar
ataraxia - Maurice Tate, WG Grace
honestbharani - Shakib Al Hasan, Andrew Flintoff, Shane Watson
Line and Length - Bob Willis, Brian McMillan, Glenn Turner
Flem - Heath Streak, Tamim Iqbal, Sanath Jayasuriya
Fuller Pilch - Victor Trumper, Mushfiqur Rahim, Inzamam-ul-Haq
Coronis - Alan Knott, James Andersen, Rangana Herath
Kingkallis - Gordon Greenidge, John Snow, Jeff Thomson
aussie tragic - Martin Crowe, Mark Boucher, Chaminda Vaas
mr_mister - Frank Worrell*, Harold Larwood

* awaiting allrounder criteria decision from Shri whereby Mr_mister has offered to swap Worrell for Gooch

I've got Kumble too
 

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