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Allan Donald vs Joel Garner

Who was the greater bowler?

  • Allan Donald

    Votes: 16 57.1%
  • Joel Garner

    Votes: 12 42.9%

  • Total voters
    28

Pap Finn Keighl

State Vice-Captain
As an example from amongst the players I have watched, I have absolutely no doubt that Gillespie and Walsh are two bowlers who could have had much better stats had they been the lead bowlers in their sides. They almost all the time had to bowl into the wind and try to bowl dry spells to ensure Ambrose or McGrath on the other end can attack. While I understand the glamour of individual stats for arguments such as these, especially among bowlers, it is very important to note what role their team needed them to play and how well they played it.

And perhaps you would find some who could play every role really well and maybe those bowlers do need to be rated higher. One example I can think of, is Pollock. He often bowled into the wind when bowling with Donald but he also performed really well as the lead bowler, rough stats against one of the greatest sides ever aside. It is not such a simple thing as to go by just bowling average and strike rate in what is basically a team game.
Gillespie
Walsh
Akram
 

Shady Slim

International Captain
that is a remarkably curious and probably statistically significant difference in the average between bowling the first and second over for m holding which i can't quite figure out why it'd be a thing tbh, for anyone not just holding - obviously you wouldn't have exactly equal averages bowling first and second, just because of the multifarity of circumstances in any individual game, but you would expect most people would look like that of garner, basically around the same number with slight margin of error there - but holding's is really weird!!
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
that is a remarkably curious and probably statistically significant difference in the average between bowling the first and second over for m holding which i can't quite figure out why it'd be a thing tbh, for anyone not just holding - obviously you wouldn't have exactly equal averages bowling first and second, just because of the multifarity of circumstances in any individual game, but you would expect most people would look like that of garner, basically around the same number with slight margin of error there - but holding's is really weird!!
Usually the 2nd over means you are bowling into the wind especially in those days of mostly open grounds than fully built stadiums. Must be that.
 

_00_deathscar

International 12th Man
that is a remarkably curious and probably statistically significant difference in the average between bowling the first and second over for m holding which i can't quite figure out why it'd be a thing tbh, for anyone not just holding - obviously you wouldn't have exactly equal averages bowling first and second, just because of the multifarity of circumstances in any individual game, but you would expect most people would look like that of garner, basically around the same number with slight margin of error there - but holding's is really weird!!
Check Sachin stats for 1st vs 2nd in ODIs…
 

Burgey

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The big lesson here is if you're batting you're hoping Garner isn't made to wait til 3rd change to get a go.
 

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