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All Hail King Misbah!

Flem274*

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Love me some Misbah. No one blocks out an entire session then smashes a six five minutes before tea like Misbah does.

Yes; he had a poor start and the selectors over-reacted and blacklisted him for years despite the fact that he was regularly showing them how wrong they were by bossing it like the boss he is in domestic cricket. Younis, Yousuf and Inzamam were obviously fair enough; they were better batsmen than Misbah. That's just undeniable. Asim Kamal, aside from being highly debatable anyway, played just 12 Tests, so he was hardly keeping Misbah out very often.

Beyond that, it was a bit of a joke. Between 2001 and the end of 2006 Misbah played just 5 Tests even though - between them - Faisal, Hameed, Razzaq, Afridi, Malik, Raza, Latif, Adil and Bazid and Kamran Akmal played 80 as #3-6 batsmen. If you take out the keepers and Razzaq/Afridi (as they were offering a proper fifth bowling option; fair enough) you still get 50 Tests played by batsmen obviously inferior to the bloke who played 5. Yeah he didn't do very well in those five but the point is that you should back your blokes who prove they know how to score big runs and give them a chance to adapt instead of panicking and trying random punts; which is what this Misbah era is all about. I have no doubt that his poor treatment not only allowed him to develop his captaincy skills by playing so much as captain but also helped shape his captaincy style by showing him a glitch in the system that needed addressing.

All this is why I love Misbah so much; he's a living, breathing example of so many unpopular opinions I hold about cricket. Firstly, his age - this is a guy who had no real career to speak of in his prime, no former glory to keep his faith in his own ability based on, no long history of Test excellence to cling to when people inevitably pointed to his birth certificate during tough periods of poor form - none of that at all, and yet he got the recall at 30+ and showed the selectors just how wrong they were to leave him out all those years. He's averaging over 70 as captain; he's killing it and going along way to proving my hypothesis that older cricketers aren't 'finished' nearly as early as we tend to think, and that as long as they have the drive they can get over form slumps and blips just like 25 year olds can.

He's also a great advocate for selecting proven domestic performers - even from domestic competitions of dubious quality - and sticking with them if they're well ahead of the pack. This is another idea I hold close to my heart and one I think a lot of selectors gloss over in trying to overplay their hands and talent-spot. No-one gets credit for just doing the obvious and picking the bloke scoring lots of runs or taking lots of wickets but if you do something out of the ordinary and by some massive fluke it actually pays off, that's when you get recognised as a captain or an administrator, so a lot more punts are taken than necessary. I think this is even more true in Pakistan because of how Waqar and Wasim were discovered; people are convinced this is the only way. Misbah is the posterboy for logic and patience in more ways than one; he's incorporated this overall style into his captaincy and his team's selection process. Misbah was discarded early in his career but he didn't sulk or retire or accept bribes or throw matches; he just went back to domestic cricket and scored thousands and thousands of runs at an average above 50 - and he just kept doing that quietly year after year until he got another chance; you have to love that.

He also gives the figurative Virat Kohli to those aggression at all costs types who think you have to be macho and dictate terms to your opposition to win cricket games. You yourself have been very critical of his batting style but he's scoring loads of runs anyway by batting his way and working to his own strengths. Better still, the team has been winning under his style which has extended to the other batsmen that are selected and the no nonsense bowling plans. His whole style is measured, calculated and canny rather than aggressive and dominant and a lot of people have a big problem with this because they can't beat their chests and pull their dicks when they watch their team play under it, but it's something I strongly believe in, and it's working.

Haters can, frankly, suck it. I don't like Misbah because I think he's the greatest batsman or captain of all time; I like Misbah because he stands for a lot of the cricket philosophies I hold even just by keeping his place in the side. Every run he scores and every match his side wins is a little win for me and what I believe people get "wrong" about cricket.
With this post you still managed to pull your chest and beat your..
 

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When I think of his innings in the World Cup semi-final, I still shudder. It's disgusting that someone can be faced with a small but realistic chance of pulling off a phenomenal comeback win for Pakistan over India in a World Cup semi-final and not even bother trying.

I'll make this analogous to Cribb's post and say that one of my favourite cricketing rants involves players giving up and deciding to bat out the overs in an ODI when the run rate seems a bit steep. That's one more reason why Kevin O'Brien's innings was so glorious; because he thought, hey, we probably can't win from here, but you don't get any bonus points for batting out the overs, so there's no harm in trying. And he did, and ended up pulling off one of the greatest World Cup victories of all time. What if we'd had Misbah playing instead? He'd have openly given up. Just like he has done in so many situations that weren't even anywhere near as hopeless as the one O'Brien found himself in. That's just about the least endearing thing a sportsperson can do.

So even though I agree with pretty much everything Cribb says about Misbah, and really appreciate what he's doing for Pakistani cricket, I don't like the guy at all. He gives up really, really easily, and that's just ****ing dire. WAC.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
When I think of his innings in the World Cup semi-final, I still shudder. It's disgusting that someone can be faced with a small but realistic chance of pulling off a phenomenal comeback win for Pakistan over India in a World Cup semi-final and not even bother trying.

I'll make this analogous to Cribb's post and say that one of my favourite cricketing rants involves players giving up and deciding to bat out the overs in an ODI when the run rate seems a bit steep. That's one more reason why Kevin O'Brien's innings was so glorious; because he thought, hey, we probably can't win from here, but you don't get any bonus points for batting out the overs, so there's no harm in trying. And he did, and ended up pulling off one of the greatest World Cup victories of all time. What if we'd had Misbah playing instead? He'd have openly given up. Just like he has done in so many situations that weren't even anywhere near as hopeless as the one O'Brien found himself in. That's just about the least endearing thing a sportsperson can do.

So even though I agree with pretty much everything Cribb says about Misbah, and really appreciate what he's doing for Pakistani cricket, I don't like the guy at all. He gives up really, really easily, and that's just ****ing dire. WAC.
Woa, hold on. There’s a difference between “giving up and not even trying” and playing according to your natural instincts and following the established game plan. What you can perhaps legitimately criticize Misbah for is his seemingly inability to switch gears as required by the match situation. He sticks to his cautious approach, believing it will pay dividends in the end. More often than not, he’s been proven right. However, there are some high profile instances of him failing with that approach, the WC being the prominent one. You have to realize though that it was part of the team plan for him to play defensively and preserve his wicket to ensure he’s there in the last 5 to 10 overs and then hit out. He was relying on his fellow batsman not giving away their wickets and having a few established batsman to work with in the end. That obviously didn’t happen. Now you can fault him for not adjusting to the situation properly, but I think it’s very harsh to say, and frankly without an iota of proof, that he simply gave up.
 

Agent Nationaux

International Coach
Woa, hold on. There’s a difference between “giving up and not even trying” and playing according to your natural instincts and following the established game plan. What you can perhaps legitimately criticize Misbah for is his seemingly inability to switch gears as required by the match situation. He sticks to his cautious approach, believing it will pay dividends in the end. More often than not, he’s been proven right. However, there are some high profile instances of him failing with that approach, the WC being the prominent one. You have to realize though that it was part of the team plan for him to play defensively and preserve his wicket to ensure he’s there in the last 5 to 10 overs and then hit out. He was relying on his fellow batsman not giving away their wickets and having a few established batsman to work with in the end. That obviously didn’t happen. Now you can fault him for not adjusting to the situation properly, but I think it’s very harsh to say, and frankly without an iota of proof, that he simply gave up.
Agree with this. I didn't see Misbah giving up. He even tried shots at the end. The problem was that our batsmen kept losing their wickets including the captain Afridi.
 

Faisal1985

International Vice-Captain
When I think of his innings in the World Cup semi-final, I still shudder. It's disgusting that someone can be faced with a small but realistic chance of pulling off a phenomenal comeback win for Pakistan over India in a World Cup semi-final and not even bother trying.

I'll make this analogous to Cribb's post and say that one of my favourite cricketing rants involves players giving up and deciding to bat out the overs in an ODI when the run rate seems a bit steep. That's one more reason why Kevin O'Brien's innings was so glorious; because he thought, hey, we probably can't win from here, but you don't get any bonus points for batting out the overs, so there's no harm in trying. And he did, and ended up pulling off one of the greatest World Cup victories of all time. What if we'd had Misbah playing instead? He'd have openly given up. Just like he has done in so many situations that weren't even anywhere near as hopeless as the one O'Brien found himself in. That's just about the least endearing thing a sportsperson can do.

So even though I agree with pretty much everything Cribb says about Misbah, and really appreciate what he's doing for Pakistani cricket, I don't like the guy at all. He gives up really, really easily, and that's just ****ing dire. WAC.
I think ODI and Tests are different stories and as a test player I agree with PEWS and rate Misbah highly....

On the other hand I will not disagree with a word of this post.....that innings of Misbah blocking ball after ball was extremely disappointing...
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
It was disappointing (well not as an Indian supporter :D), it was ****, it was horrible cricket.

But was it giving up?
 

Faisal1985

International Vice-Captain
Woa, hold on. There’s a difference between “giving up and not even trying” and playing according to your natural instincts and following the established game plan. What you can perhaps legitimately criticize Misbah for is his seemingly inability to switch gears as required by the match situation. He sticks to his cautious approach, believing it will pay dividends in the end. More often than not, he’s been proven right. However, there are some high profile instances of him failing with that approach, the WC being the prominent one. You have to realize though that it was part of the team plan for him to play defensively and preserve his wicket to ensure he’s there in the last 5 to 10 overs and then hit out. He was relying on his fellow batsman not giving away their wickets and having a few established batsman to work with in the end. That obviously didn’t happen. Now you can fault him for not adjusting to the situation properly, but I think it’s very harsh to say, and frankly without an iota of proof, that he simply gave up.
TBH..playing 5-6 maidens at a point when you need 6 an over wasn't exactly preserving your wicket. Preserving your wicket has to do with playing riskfree and taking singles at least...Misbah blocked out 33-38 overs of that Pakistan innings if I remember correctly. IMO no way to preserve a wicket.

I don't know if he was exactly giving up but he certainly didn't have the right idea and that was a major judgment error. After those streak of maidens the required rate climbed near 8 or 9. You can argue that he didn't give up just stuck to the plan but that was a major lack of judgement on his part in a very important game...
 

smash84

The Tiger King
TBH..playing 5-6 maidens at a point when you need 6 an over wasn't exactly preserving your wicket. Preserving your wicket has to do with playing riskfree and taking singles at least...Misbah blocked out 33-38 overs of that Pakistan innings if I remember correctly. IMO no way to preserve a wicket.

I don't know if he was exactly giving up but he certainly didn't have the right idea and that was a major judgment error. After those streak of maidens the required rate climbed near 8 or 9. You can argue that he didn't give up just stuck to the plan but that was a major lack of judgement on his part in a very important game...
so you admit that was not giving up :p
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
When I think of his innings in the World Cup semi-final, I still shudder. It's disgusting that someone can be faced with a small but realistic chance of pulling off a phenomenal comeback win for Pakistan over India in a World Cup semi-final and not even bother trying.

I'll make this analogous to Cribb's post and say that one of my favourite cricketing rants involves players giving up and deciding to bat out the overs in an ODI when the run rate seems a bit steep. That's one more reason why Kevin O'Brien's innings was so glorious; because he thought, hey, we probably can't win from here, but you don't get any bonus points for batting out the overs, so there's no harm in trying. And he did, and ended up pulling off one of the greatest World Cup victories of all time. What if we'd had Misbah playing instead? He'd have openly given up. Just like he has done in so many situations that weren't even anywhere near as hopeless as the one O'Brien found himself in. That's just about the least endearing thing a sportsperson can do.

So even though I agree with pretty much everything Cribb says about Misbah, and really appreciate what he's doing for Pakistani cricket, I don't like the guy at all. He gives up really, really easily, and that's just ****ing dire. WAC.
You know I have had detailed discussions about that match with so many people now... of course one of the first things that was mentioned after the way Misbah and Younis batted was that they had fixed the match. Knowing Misbah and Younis since the day they made their debuts, I knew fully well that it wasn't match fixing or giving up. They were simply not good enough to handle the pressure of a chase, keep rotating the strike and maintain a good run rate in the middle overs. That has been my major criticism of Misbah - that he cannot rotate the strike...he can either block or clear his left leg and smash it for a 6.
He definitely did not give up, he tried his best, he just wasn't good enough in that situation. Neither Misbah or Younis are great ODI players. It was a selection error. Mohammad Yousuf should have been in the team but that is a different discussion.



Agree with this. I didn't see Misbah giving up. He even tried shots at the end. The problem was that our batsmen kept losing their wickets including the captain Afridi.
Well Misbah's batting definitely contributed to wickets being lost because the balls wasted by Misbah and Younis created the pressure on the lower order batsman. Hafeez, Akmal and Shafiq had given Pakistan a decent start..it was those balls wasted in the middle that created the pressure. The biggest contrast was when Umar Akmal came into bat, and the ease with which he was finding a single in the gaps..and till that point Misbah and Younis were only finding the fielders.

However I wouldn't say he gave up at all. He fought till the last over.
 
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Xuhaib

International Coach
I do beleive Misbah choked in that game but he was not the only one Hafeez, Younis, Razzaq and Afridi were equally guilty imo.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
Oh absolutely..but the lower order chocking under pressure is different from the others...they chocked under 'self created' pressure.. There should have been no pressure after Pakistan reached 100 runs for the last of 2 wickets chasing 260.
I was just talking about that match last night with my best friend and we were talking about how the difference between Misbah-Younis and Inzy-Yousuf was that Inzy and Yousuf also took their time to settle in in the middle of an ODI innings but once they got set, they had the ability to rotate the strike, find boundaries without going aggressive. Problem with Misbah and Younis is, they waste deliveries 6-7 overs initially, and then get out or get other people out because they can't accelerate.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
the run rate only got out of hand in the last 5 overs when Afridi got out it was still in the 8's which is very manageable for a player like Afridi imo getting out to a rank full toss is an equal to wasting 6-8 overs in terms of chokability. The only reason Misbah was considered the bigger culprit was because he was on our telly screen for the longest duration of the game.
 

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