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21st Century International Draft - Voting

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International Debutant
Many thanks to all participants. With such a shallow pool to select from it became quite a challenge - particularly during the later rounds. I apologise for any hiccups I had when setting out initial rules and when posting updates. Your assistance in correcting these was much appreciated.
And now for the voting stage. I have divided the teams into 3 groups, 2 of 4 and one of 5. I have put my team into the group of 5 where I have included all the participants who added player stats.
All participants are invited to select the two teams that they think is strongest in each group (other than the group that they are in).
Groups are listed as they were posted (both in order and in format). I added stats to my team so it competes wither other stats included teams.

GROUP 1
ataraxiakingkallisPothasMagrat Garlick
CricZo XI
1) V Sehwag /David Warner / (c)Murali VijayA Strauss (Eng)
2) FDM Karunaratne /Aiden Markram /Phil JaquesK Braithwaite (WI)
3) Rahmat Shah /Azhar Ali /Kane WilliamsonH Amla (SA)
4) Mominul Haque /Rohit Sharma /Ross TaylorV Kohli (Ind)
5) MJ Clarke /Ajinkya Rahane /Darren BravoK Mendis (SL)
6) BB McCullum / +Dhanajaya de Silva / oAsad ShafiqShoaib Malik (Pak)
7) JDS Neesham / oDinesh Ramdin + /Mushfiqur Rahim+W Saha (Ind)
8) VD Philander o /Sam Curran o /Graeme SwannJ Pattinson (Aus)
9) MJ Leach oKagiso Rabada oKyle AbbottM Johnson (Aus)
10) PM Siddle oTrent Boult oMohammed ShamiK Maharaj (SA)
11) M Morkel oSaeed Ajmal oJames AndersonT Southee (NZ)
GROUP 2
Michaelf7777777honestbharaniTeutonTrundler
Charter 77 Final XI
Dean ElgarMayank AgarwalMark RichardsonAlistair Cook
Chris RogersPhil HughesUsman KhawajaSimon Katich
Martin LoveJoe Root ©Cheteshwar PujaraYounis Khan
Babar AzamAB De VilliersMike Hussey cHenry Nicholls
Angelo Mathews (*) (6)Kusal Perera (wk)Ramnaresh SarwanHanuma Vihari
BJ Watling (+)Roston ChaseBen StokesColin De Grandhomme
Shakib Al Hasan (5)Sean Williams (vc)Jonny BairstowBrendan Taylor+
Ravichandran Ashwin (4)Yasir ShahRashid KhanDuanne Olivier
Chris Woakes (1)Mitch StarcDale SteynSimon Jones
Bhuvneshwar Kumar (2)Ishant SharmaLasith MalingaNathan Lyon
Matthew Hoggard (3)Jofra ArcherChris MartinMohammad Asif
 

stephen

Hall of Fame Member
This is the second draft in a row with people putting up a funky tournament system and I don't like it at all. What's the problem with "pick the best 3 teams" which was standard for so long. This is adding more work to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
 

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International Debutant
Group 3 required different formatting and I had troubles posting after the first 2 groups, so have posted Group 3 separately.

GROUP 3
Fuller Pilch
Graeme Smith * 48.25
Chris Gayle 42.19; 42.73
Marnus Labuschagne 63.43; 38.66
Adam Voges 61.87
Thilan Samaweera 48.76; 45.93
Jesse Ryder 40.93; 56.00
Matt Prior + 40.83; 217 c, 13 st
Moeen Ali 28.97; 36.59
Zaheer Khan 11.94; 32.95
Shane Bond 12.92; 22.09
Mohammed Abbas 6.25; 21.70
Stephen
Gautum Gambhir (Ind) (4154 @42)
Mohammed Hafeez (Pak) (3652 @38)
Jonathan Trott (Eng) (3835 @44)
Ian Bell (Eng) (7727 @43)
Jacques Rudolf (SA) (2622 @35)
Mahmadullah (Ban) (2764 @32, 43w @45)
Tatenda Taibu+* (Zim) (1536 @30)
Ravindra Jadeja (Ind) (1869 @35, 213w @25)
Stuart Clark (Aus) (94w @24)
Neil Wagner (NZ) (206w @27)
Josh Hazlewood (Aus) (195w @26)
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Marcus Trescothick (Eng) * 5825 @ 43.8
Shane Watson (Aust) 3731 @ 35.2 & 75w @ 33.6
Kumar Sangakkara (SL) wkp 124000 @ 57.41
Faf du Plessis (SA) 3901 @ 39.8
Misbah-Ul-Haq (Pak) 5222 @46.6
Brad Hodge (Aust) 503 @ 55.8
Jacob Oram (NZ) 1780 @ 36.3 & 60w @ 32.9
Kemar Roach (WI) o 201w @ 27.5
Chris Tremlett (Eng) o 53w @ 27.00
Pragyan Ojha (Ind) o 113w @ 30.27
Jasprit Bumrah (Ind) o 68w @ 20.3
BoyBrumby
1) Tom Latham LHB 3726 runs @ 42.34
2) Shikhar Dhawan LHB 2315 @ 40.61
3) Zak Crawley RHB 581 @ 48.42
4) Kevin Pietersen RHB 8181 @ 47.29; OS 10 wickets @ 88.60
5) Dinesh Chandimal RHB 3877 @ 40.81
6) Quinton de Kock+ LHB 2934 @ 39.12; 191 catches, 11 stumpings
7) Dwayne Bravo RHB 2200 @ 31.43; RMF 86 @ 39.84
8) Jason Holder* RHB 2012 @ 31.94; RFM 116 @ 26.70
9) Ryan Harris RHB 603 @ 21.54; RF 113 @ 23.52
10) Pat Cummins RHB 647 @ 17.03; RF 143 @ 21.83
11) Abdur Rehman LHB 395 @ 14.11; SLA 99 @ 29.39
GIMH
Lord Protector's XI
Tamim Iqbal, LHB, 4405 @ 38.64
Taufeeq Umar, LHB, 2963 @ 37.98
Steve Smith, RHB, 7227 @ 62.84; LS, 17 @ 56.47
Ashwell Prince, LHB, 3665 @ 41.64; OS, 1 @ 47.00
Paul Collingwood, RHB, 4259 @ 40.56; RM, 17 @ 59.88
Daryl Mitchell, RHB, 73 @ 73.00
MS Dhoni *+ 4876 @ 38.09; 256 ct, 38 st
Akila Dananjaya LHB, 135 @ 16.87; OS, 33 @ 24.81
Stuart Broad, LHB, 3335 @ 19.05; RFM, 514 @ 27.65
Ben Hilfenhaus, RHB, 355 @ 13.65; RFM, 99 @ 28.50
Mohammad Amir, LHB, 751 @ 13.41; LF, 119 @ 30.67
 

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International Debutant
This is the second draft in a row with people putting up a funky tournament system and I don't like it at all. What's the problem with "pick the best 3 teams" which was standard for so long. This is adding more work to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
Sorry you disapprove. Personally I found it hard to select 3 teams from a large group of teams. I think the problem involved in this system is the time factor. I will leave the first round of voting open for 3 days then I will post the leading pair from each Group for the final voting stage. If you don't like the work involved in the first stage, feel free to abstain, then you can can pick the best teams in the second stage.
 
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stephen

Hall of Fame Member
Sorry you disapprove. Personally I found it hard to select 3 teams from a large group of teams. I think the problem involved in this system is the time factor. I will leave the first round of voting open for 3 days then I will post the leading pair from each Group for the final voting stage. If you don't like the work involved in the first stage, feel free to abstain, then you can can pick the best teams in the second stage.
Not only is this way less fair, it's also more work. I don't want to abstain, I just don't want to be splitting hairs between all the middling teams. We're not playing for Sheep Stations here.
 

stephen

Hall of Fame Member
The sad thing is that there is a more involved voting process for an online forum game than there is to elect the most powerful person in the world.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Tough calls. Some very decent looking sides with some obvious strengths and weaknesses. Just like yer actual test cricket, in fact.

I like KK's batting a lot, but his seam attack, with (much as I love him) SCurran as first change isn't perhaps as strong as the competition. Plus, obviously, I'd have to hold my nose if I voted for any XI with Pakistan's javelin record holder as its spinner.

Mags has a great seam attack and, with Southee coming in at 11, a nice depth to the batting that probably compensates for a slight dip in quality in the lower middle order and I think Pothas's XI has a better balance than ataraxia's, whose top order (Sehwag excepted) looks maybe a little thin and probably comes second in the spin department too.

In Group 2 Teuton has a great top 7, but his seam bowling looks as if it might possibly be too reliant on Steyn, with the other options all a bit boom or bust.

Loving Mick7's depth to his batting with Woakes one of the better 9s one will ever see and probably the best spin options of the four XIs, but his seam attack is merely good rather than great.

HB has a great bowling attack, but the batting has Root and AB maybe carrying more weight than one would like. Trundler's top 3 is golden and has a very decent bowling unit, but his middle order maybe isn't strong enough to compensate for his tail's rat-like qualities, with any runs from 8 downwards looking a bonus rather than an expectation.

On balance then:

Group 1: Pothas & Mags

Group 2: Mick7s & hb
 

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