Fuller Pilch
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Great call. I had forgotten about him.What about Sunil Narine?
Great call. I had forgotten about him.What about Sunil Narine?
Seriously, stop with the Bevan/Barry Richards comparison stuff. It's silly.I'm more saying we either recognise his test stats as they are and deem him a great test AR or we ignore them as an abnormality and go by his FC stats and deem him an unproven test player ala Barry Richards
Either way works for me
People who want to say he wasnt a good enough bat in tests and that we should also ignore his test bowling success are the ones wanting to have their cake and eat it too. I just want one or the other
*in tests
right, here we go againEven ODIs when Dhoni and DeVilliers are around.
You could argue he doesn't belong there but that's not the context of what was being clarified.Even ODIs when Dhoni and DeVilliers are around.
Getting there...Since we're probably heading anyway there can I just say Symonds does not belong in an ATG ODI XI
Not sure Bevan is better than Dhoni but still exceptional from youBevans better than Dhoni and also any Sri Lankan batsmen
I'd pick McGrath before all of themSymonds easily one of the first five ODI players picked for Aus along with Bevan, Gilchrist, Dean Jones and Ponting
It's more about how every discussion gets transformed into discussion about hypothetical ATG XI, more funny way to observe that is to refer to Symonds debate. It's a meta point.I feel like the guys who bring up Symonds as a troll point are doing a disservice to @Red Hill who actually believes he belongs at that level. We may agree or disagree with him but at least he is genuine and does not troll, I respect that.
But Symonds being forcefully crammed into a side he doesn't belong in to play a role he isn't good enough for is definitely part of it.It's more about how every discussion gets transformed into discussion about hypothetical ATG XI, more funny way to observe that is to refer to Symonds debate. It's a meta point.
So he would be mentioned in such a context then...Some people will have him in first XI, some in second XI. But he is not an automatic choice like Dhoni, Viv or Tendulkar. I have no issues to which team he is selected.