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*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017
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fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Was a struggle that one, but I've seen plenty worse - shame Carbs is a bit long in the tooth otherwise I think he might be able to do a job
CarlsbergXpress
U19 Vice-Captain
Why not throw them all in and see who swims? They can't do any worse than this, can they?
Furball
Evil Scotsman
lol get to ****
SeamUp
International Coach
This was great viewing during the test : https://www.trentbridge.co.uk/news/2017/july/michael-atherton-on-harold-larwood.html
Bahseph
State Captain
There's way too many gun players in this England side to ever right them off, but you do get the feeling that they need a few good honest pros in there to balance out the Stokeses & Moeens.
Every time I turn on an England Test there's a left handed opener paired with Cook who is vulnerable off stump. I know Hameed hasn't got many runs lately but surely he is the future. Looked so good in India. Ballance is very Duminy-like. Bullies domestically but something is missing at international level.
As for Dawson, I never like putting down my namesake haha, but what is the point of him? I looked at his stats and he seems a very middling player. I don't get that selection at all.
Every time I turn on an England Test there's a left handed opener paired with Cook who is vulnerable off stump. I know Hameed hasn't got many runs lately but surely he is the future. Looked so good in India. Ballance is very Duminy-like. Bullies domestically but something is missing at international level.
As for Dawson, I never like putting down my namesake haha, but what is the point of him? I looked at his stats and he seems a very middling player. I don't get that selection at all.
Gob
International Coach
Would i get banned if i call someone an idiot sandwich?
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
Ballance having x-ray on finger. If it's broken he's out of the next test.
Would take the decision out of their hands.
Would take the decision out of their hands.
CarlsbergXpress
U19 Vice-Captain
Bijed
International Regular
Is it fair to say he might be the closest thing this generation has to a Hick/Ramprakash type player?
He probably gets next match though, as of the 4 that are candidates for dropping, he's been the least dreadful. In order to go for me would be: Wood, Dawson, Jennings, Ballance
Top_Cat
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TBH I'd back him for one good knock in Oz conditions. Looks one of those blokes who'll lace anything wide and just miss anything that moves off the straight. The times I've seen him castled, think it was the low bounce that did for him more than the movement.
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fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Just seen the dismissals for the first time - I thought folk were exaggerating how bad it was - now I know they weren't - genuinely shocked
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
That's a good shout. Though Ballance is not as aesthetically pleasing as either of those two were.
Stoneman is by far the most likely to get called up I suppose, seems like exactly the sort of pick we have been making the last few years.
Could do a youth thing I suppose, especially if a middle order spot is available because it brings someone like Lawrence into the discussion. Thing is in any other season Hameed would have played the first Test of the summer, a bit of poor form early season would have been discounted, it was only because we had such a long stretch before the first Test that it became a real problem. What is is he even doing at the moment with the Twenty20 being on?
Could do a youth thing I suppose, especially if a middle order spot is available because it brings someone like Lawrence into the discussion. Thing is in any other season Hameed would have played the first Test of the summer, a bit of poor form early season would have been discounted, it was only because we had such a long stretch before the first Test that it became a real problem. What is is he even doing at the moment with the Twenty20 being on?
At the Oval as well where they are usually awful. England will probably go and win by 300 runs now.
LegionOfBrad
International Debutant
He is indeed unlucky due to the scheduling.
They're picking based on Lions. Which is fair enough I suppose. It is the reason they travel the world with them. To get the next string ready to make the step up to Tests.
There have been massive issues with players not making the leap in the last few years. When it seemed under Strauss the next cab on the rank came in and just clicked.
I suppose the last player who has come in and finally made the spot his own is Woakes. The core of the side is still the same as forever though.
Groundking
International Debutant
I'm coming round to the idea that just keep chucking new lads into the team to try and score runs simply isn't working, and there's no need for 6 bowlers, I don't think it's helping Root's captaincy out having so many options with the ball, and it's just diluting the good stuff that Jimmy and Broad give use, so I think I'd like to see the following for the next test:
Cook
Robson
Jennings
Root
Ballance
Stokes
Bairstow
Moeen
TRJ
Broad
Anderson
With this we have alternating LH/RH all the way down, but honestly with the way Stokes has been batting recently I'd be half tempted to dump Stokes down to 8 and have Bairstow 6 Moeen 7, that's the question mark I'm currently having with this idea. but it's obvious that we need to change the batting up, as we've been rolled over for less than half South Africas total, and that's simply not acceptable, but constantly having a rotating door of batsmen isn't the best idea either IMO.
Cook
Robson
Jennings
Root
Ballance
Stokes
Bairstow
Moeen
TRJ
Broad
Anderson
With this we have alternating LH/RH all the way down, but honestly with the way Stokes has been batting recently I'd be half tempted to dump Stokes down to 8 and have Bairstow 6 Moeen 7, that's the question mark I'm currently having with this idea. but it's obvious that we need to change the batting up, as we've been rolled over for less than half South Africas total, and that's simply not acceptable, but constantly having a rotating door of batsmen isn't the best idea either IMO.