What does this site underrate/overrate?

[Furball]

The interesting thing is that post World War I, great batsmen from any era will pretty much all have the same batting average and get tons at the same rate. Bradman's obviously an enormous outlier but other than a couple of 30s players who averaged closer to 60 and the recent retirees who average closer to 55 it's been a remarkable constant for 100 years.

 

[viriya]

overrated - sangakarra as a wicketkeeper/batsman. he is matt prior tier when combining both facets.

You realize he gave up the gloves in tests just as his batting got to another level?

Also in ODIs he kept keeping and still had an ATG career.

 

[vic_orthdox]

As a forum we underrate the effect of prior innings of the match on the game and how it effects current performances.

 

[ImpatientLime]

You realize he gave up the gloves in tests just as his batting got to another level?

Also in ODIs he kept keeping and still had an ATG career.

how does this detract from my point? he sky rocketed but never put the runs on the board as keeper to warrant inclusion in atg xis that i've seen done many times on this board.

 

[mr_mister]

comparing him to prior is just lolworthy

always had a way higher ceiling as a batsman from day dot

 

[ImpatientLime]

yeah that's nice but we're talking about him as a keeper/bat. completely different player.

but sure, keep banging on about his ability purely as a batsman.

 

[mr_mister]

day dot as in from his very first test buddy

 

[ImpatientLime]

higher ceiling and actual results are two very different things buddy.

 

[viriya]

how does this detract from my point? he sky rocketed but never put the runs on the board as keeper to warrant inclusion in atg xis that i've seen done many times on this board.

It shows that his batting as a keeper in Tests doesn't prove that he was a weak keeper-batsman because he did that in the early stages of his career when he wasn't as good as he became. His ODI record shows that his batting didn't improve because he stopped keeping - he just got better.

 

[mr_mister]

higher ceiling and actual results are two very different things buddy.

well lol he produced actual results in the end

basically what viriya said

 

[OverratedSanity]

yeah that's nice but we're talking about him as a keeper/bat. completely different player.

but sure, keep banging on about his ability purely as a batsman.

He started producing more runs primarily because he naturally improved as a batsman, not just because he gave up the gloves.

 

[Shady Slim]

gnske for the underrated
ireland's credentials as a team since 2015 overrated

 

[Athlai]

gnske being mentioned means hes now overrated

 

[TheJediBrah]

yeah that's nice but we're talking about him as a keeper/bat. completely different player.

but sure, keep banging on about his ability purely as a batsman.

Nah I'm with this guy

Keeping in Tests and keeping on ODIs are very different things, and who knows if he kept keeping he may never have been anywhere near as good as a Test batsman

 

[smash84]

Nah I'm with this guy

Keeping in Tests and keeping on ODIs are very different things, and who knows if he kept keeping he may never have been anywhere near as good as a Test batsman

so you didn't see him bat and see his batting evolution?

 

[Compton]

Overrated: Ben Stokes
Underrated: James Faulkner

 

[Furball]

Overrated: 4th innings runs

 

[Athlai]

Overrated 3rd innings runs in CPL

 

[Flem274*]

overrated - weighting the importance of runs in various innings

i hear if you don't score any runs in either of your innings then you probably lose

 

[Zinzan]

Overrated: 4th innings runs

Why, when 90% of the time it's the most challenging? I mean the statistics don't lie.