Contentious decisions, UDRS, Wambulance Thread.

[Maximas]

I get that it didn't work then, but TBH one horrid instance does not put a definitive line through anything, or they'd have abandoned Tech for run-outs when it was implemented at first. Umps took awhile to get their heads around that too.

well, OK, but commentators go on and on about how convenient it would be if obvious errors were simply checked and then changed, but it won't work like that, obvious errors become slight errors and then it all goes to ****. The system is fine as it is, the players simply have to become better at using it. At least run-outs are clear cut.

 

[uvelocity]

didnt watch much ryobi but how i remember it, was done in a pretty haphazard and stupid way. giving umps the drs could be done a ****load better than the dip****s managed it here last summer iirc

 

[grecian]

well, OK, but commentators go on and on about how convenient it would be if obvious errors were simply checked and then changed, but it won't work like that, obvious errors become slight errors and then it all goes to ****. The system is fine as it is, the players simply have to become better at using it. At least run-outs are clear cut.

Well, I'm someone that likes Harper's idea of having specialist DRS people in the box, I'm hoping this trial system may go some way to doing that, if they've got their own technology, best to have people very adept at using it.

 

[marc71178]

didnt watch much ryobi but how i remember it, was done in a pretty haphazard and stupid way. giving umps the drs could be done a ****load better than the dip****s managed it here last summer iirc

So in effect it's all Cricket Australia's fault then? Backlash multi?

 

[Black_Warrior]

Here we go..Australia waste their reviews due to their own dumbness and then we will have the dumb journalists in Australia bash the umpires and ICC and DRS and everyone else BUT the dumbness, recklessness and selfishness of Australian cricketers..and then the naysayers will come out and say "see I told you so, DRS sucks, it does not result in right decisions"

Well any system ultimately will depend on how people use it, now most Australian cricketers seem to be dumb and selfish and waste their reviews, but that's clearly their shortcoming, you cannot blame a system because of people who are unable to use it.

 

[morgieb]

Is it just me, or has there been a ****load more 50/50 calls this series compared to others? Perhaps that's why Australia's reviewing hasn't worked well.

 

[TNT]

Here we go..Australia waste their reviews due to their own dumbness and then we will have the dumb journalists in Australia bash the umpires and ICC and DRS and everyone else BUT the dumbness, recklessness and selfishness of Australian cricketers..and then the naysayers will come out and say "see I told you so, DRS sucks, it does not result in right decisions"

Well any system ultimately will depend on how people use it, now most Australian cricketers seem to be dumb and selfish and waste their reviews, but that's clearly their shortcoming, you cannot blame a system because of people who are unable to use it.

When did all this happen, didn't read anything in the Aus media about it.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Not sure if this series has had particularly more 50-50 calls than others..its just its a bigger series (the Ashes legacy and all that), a wider audience, more tension and pressure..
A Bangladesh-Zimbabwe series would have a lot of 50-50 calls too but nobody watched it so there's no one to complain.

 

[Black_Warrior]

When did all this happen, didn't read anything in the Aus media about it.

After the first test match, on SMH..it was by an ignorant journalist who probably doesn't watch a lot of cricket (probably never before) and the current Ashes was probably the first time he was covering a series..the article kept referring to DRS as a new thing whereas its actually almost 5 years old.

 

[Maximas]

I must admit, I'm kinda happy Australia are ****ing up their reviews, all summer long we laughed at Mahela for screwing up SL's reviews and daid he was terrible at using it, the minute we **** it up the debate here turns to whether the players should have control over it...

 

[TNT]

After the first test match, on SMH..it was by an ignorant journalist who probably doesn't watch a lot of cricket (probably never before) and the current Ashes was probably the first time he was covering a series..the article kept referring to DRS as a new thing whereas its actually almost 5 years old.

Have you sent him a e-mail to tell him how upset you are.

 

[uvelocity]

So in effect it's all Cricket Australia's fault then? Backlash multi?

what the **** ****? pull your head in. they implemented a system poorly last season, it didn't work. that doesnt mean a system of umpire drs can't work. the end.

 

[wellAlbidarned]

the very concept of putting an error correction system in the hands of the people making the errors is pretty clearly ****ed.

 

[stephen]

There is a very simple fix.

All wickets get reviewed. Fielding side gets two reviews.

Those two changes mean that if the fielders feel aggrieved by a decision they can review it and you don't get batsmen overvaluing their own wicket.

 

[Adders]

Well over these last 2 tests I've finally lost what little confidence I had left in the muppets interpretating the technology. The DRS has just lost all credibility now.

India were right, lets go back to the on field umpires doing what they are paid to do.........gotta be better than holding up the game, using incredibly expensive technology and still getting it ****ing wrong.

 

[Furball]

No, this is a stupid line of thought.

 

[Top_Cat]

Yeah, agreed. Whilst not without its flaws, the raw number of terribad decisions has demonstrably dropped under DRS. A quick YT search and you'll find several examples of really terrible decisions pre-DRS which just don't seem to happen any more.

 

[Furball]

There were a few absolutely awful decisions in the last Ashes series, never mind pre DRS. No-one really remembers them because they were almost all overturned.

 

[grecian]

Well over these last 2 tests I've finally lost what little confidence I had left in the muppets interpretating the technology. The DRS has just lost all credibility now.

India were right, lets go back to the on field umpires doing what they are paid to do.........gotta be better than holding up the game, using incredibly expensive technology and still getting it ****ing wrong.

wow, lolbad over-reaction.

 

[Furball]

The problem with run outs/stumpings and judging catches is that umpires seem to take benefit of the doubt too far and seem to look for literally any reason not to give a batsman out.