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    Nice Running, ****!

    With the help of the latest Wisden (see page 318), I have assembled this list of *potentially* the worst runners to play a reasonable amount of Test cricket.

    Wisden provided the total run-outs that each player was involved in and then split them in to run-outs where the player themself was dismissed and those where their batting partner was dismissed.

    I have then added Shane Watson for the sake of my own curiosity - though he clearly deserves to be in the mix.

    I've then added # of innings to allow calculation of run-outs per innings - to show how likely said batsman was to be involved in some running calamity or other.

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    Name			ROs	Self 	Partner Partner %	Innings	RO/inn
    Asif Iqbal		13	2	11	84.6%		99	0.131
    Warwick Armstrong	11	2	9	81.8%		84	0.131
    Simon Katich		12	2	10	83.3%		99	0.121
    Steve Waugh		27	4	23	85.2%		260	0.104
    Andy Flower		11	2	9	81.8%		112	0.098
    Doug Walters		12	3	9	75.0%		125	0.096
    Shane Watson		8	2	6	75.0%		85	0.094
    Shiv Chanderpaul	23	3	20	87.0%		251	0.092
    Sourav Ganguly		17	4	13	76.5%		188	0.090
    Viv Richards		16	4	12	75.0%		182	0.088
    Aravinda de Silva	12	3	9	75.0%		159	0.075
    Ian Botham		12	3	9	75.0%		161	0.075
    Richie Richardson	10	2	8	80.0%		146	0.068
    Brian Lara		12	3	9	75.0%		232	0.052
    Shane Watson and Simon Katich - what a combo.

    EDIT: For information, here's the matches were Watson was involved in a run-out of his batting partner. The stats ignore whether the run-out was blatantly the named batsman's fault or not:

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/345672.html
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/464526.html
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/428752.html
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/406199.html
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/428750.html
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/540176.html
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    Very good. How about Inzi?
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    Unscientifically from what I've seen and by repute I'd also have Boycott, Clarke and Nasser up/down there in the shyte runner stakes.

    Be interested to see how they stack up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    Very good. How about Inzi?
    Well, the Wisden article contained all batsmen involved in 10 or more run outs. I added Watson out of curiosity - so, given Inzy's high number of innings and even assuming the maximum of 9 run outs, his ratio would be at worst 0.045 run-outs per innings and would be below Lara.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Unscientifically from what I've seen and by repute I'd also have Boycott, Clarke and Nasser up/down there in the shyte runner stakes.

    Be interested to see how they stack up.
    Looking up Watson's run outs, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey and Hughes all seemed to pop up with some regularity.

    However, they must all of been involved in less than 10 and I suspect only Hughes with his low number of innings could compete for a place on this list.

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    Sky always make the Nasser joke but looks like Beefy was even worse, one of them was for the greater good of course.

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    Actually, I tell a lie - Wisden only included 13 out of 86 batsmen involved in 10 or more run-outs and focused more on those who have been involved in running their batting partner out - so Inzy could still find a place in this list.

    With statsguru on Cricinfo, it doesn't take long to work out. Took about 10 minutes for Watson.

    Search on matches involving Shane Watson where a run out was involved and then just clicked through the scorecards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    Well, the Wisden article contained all batsmen involved in 10 or more run outs. I added Watson out of curiosity - so, given Inzy's high number of innings and even assuming the maximum of 9 run outs, his ratio would be at worst 0.045 run-outs per innings and would be below Lara.
    Yeah I think Inzi was notoriously bad at running in limited overs, though I wouldn't be surprised to see that he wasn't as bad as we thought in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Sky always make the Nasser joke but looks like Beefy was even worse, one of them was for the greater good of course.
    Given Athers and Nass read the forum, expect them to lay into him by the return series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    Yeah I think Inzi was notoriously bad at running in limited overs, though I wouldn't be surprised to see that he wasn't as bad as we thought in general.
    MoYo was also really bad. In fact he always ran Inzy out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Given Athers and Nass read the forum
    ....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    ....?
    Haha, more of an ongoing joke than a real thing. Atherton definitely at least used to read the forum though.

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    The article in Wisden was by a Benedict Bermange. I wonder if the easiest way to approach this would be to ask him for the list of all 86 batsmen involved in 10 or more run outs and go from there, rather than trying to re-invent the wheel. It'd certainly save a lot of Cricinfo bashing.

    EDIT: And apparently he's on Twitter if anyone uses that and could ask him for the data?
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    What about Graeme Wood and Rick Darling? Was a laugh a minute when those two batted together.
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    An all time **** runners XI would have to haveWatson and Nasser in it.

    Gooing to be honest I didn't realise Katich was that poor a runner. Probably Watson's fault.

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