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    Make an AFL top 25 and get 50 pages of replies, ****.
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    Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan


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    there have never been 25 good afl players fwiw
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    Amazing work DoG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Make an AFL top 25 and get 50 pages of replies, ****.
    Would get 50 pages for Wayne Carey alone and you know it ****.
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    So Garfield Sobers is closer to Ian Bell than he is to Don Bradman. I like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    So Garfield Sobers is closer to Ian Bell than he is to Don Bradman. I like that.
    we can do better. How many points does andrew hilditch get?
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    I wonder how Younis' ranking is affected after that double.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    So Garfield Sobers is closer to Ian Bell than he is to Don Bradman. I like that.
    The same way that in terms of average, Viv Richards is closer to Chris Martin than he is to Bradman. Which is just ludicrous when you think about it.

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    Well done DoG. What a great list. Bradman a deserving winner, though greatest sportsman ever? That's hard to say, maybe do some stats?
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    This whole list was just fascinating, thought it was a wonderful attempt to quantify greatness.
    Couple of things bothered me, though.
    1) Capping career points doesn't really make sense to me, especially as it seems as though only Bradman, Lara and Tendulkar actually maxed out.
    2) Personally, one of the main things I look for in a great batsman is a balanced record in a wide variety of conditions, and not just an "away average" which can be misleading and mask a number of weaknesses in a player's record. It's why I consider Ponting,Lara, Tendulkar, Kallis to be so great, because they've scored heavily virtually everywhere, and it should count for something. Some sort of additional modifier where you penalise a batsman for having a sub 40/sub 35 average in a particular country could help.
    3) Maxing out quality points for cricketers who have played very few matches(<30 maybe) would even out the field as players like Headley get an unfair advantage here. While obviously a great batsman, averaging 50+ over 100 matches is infinitely more difficult than averaging 60 over 20 odd games.
    4) Instead of a "top opposition", the rating should take into consideration "top quality attack". (ie) It should take into account the quality of the bowlers against whom the runs were made instead of the ranking of the opposing team. I don't know if this is possible to formulate right now.... Maybe once you do a top 100 bowlers list?

    Overall, though, a fabulous formula and a great list. Excellent work
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    One of the comments you made in initially presenting your ratings was that you finally had a list you were happy with. Would you care to elaborate on what it was you were originally unhappy with and what you did to fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    The same way that in terms of average, Viv Richards is closer to Chris Martin than he is to Bradman. Which is just ludicrous when you think about it.
    No matter which way you slice it or dice it (or SRT fangirls spin it) Bradman is just so far ahead of the next best batsman it's almost unbelievable. There just aren't enough superlatives in the English language to do him justice. A cricketing freak of nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGee View Post
    No matter which way you slice it or dice it (or SRT fangirls spin it) Bradman is just so far ahead of the next best batsman it's almost unbelievable. There just aren't enough superlatives in the English language to do him justice. A cricketing freak of nature.

    And it is one of the cool things about being a cricket fan for me.. To watch the best in the world over my 25 years of watching the game and realize that there was a guy who was more than twice as good as these guys back in the 30s and 40s..
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    In the end, I think it's so utterly, incomprehensibly boring. There is so much context behind each innings of cricket that dissecting statistics into these small samples is just worthless. No-one has ever been faced with the same situation in which they come out to bat as someone else. Ever.
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    what's the point of bringing sachinfanboys/girls in this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    And it is one of the cool things about being a cricket fan for me.. To watch the best in the world over my 25 years of watching the game and realize that there was a guy who was more than twice as good as these guys back in the 30s and 40s..
    I find it more scary than cool tbh. No one has the right to be that far ahead of the rest if the pack. Boggles the mind
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