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***Official*** England in New Zealand series 2013

hendrix

hendrix

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New Zealand v England, 3rd Test, Auckland, 2nd day : New Zealand can prey on England's nerves | Cricket Features | New Zealand v England | ESPN Cricinfo

when Trent Boult, finding more swing than any of the England bowlers, removed Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott. Was it his slightly slower pace through the air allowing the ball to move? Maybe it was purely the vagaries of the ball picked out of the box.
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1. Boult is faster than the England bowlers.

2. Maybe it's not the vagaries of the ball. Maybe it's immaculate seam position and pitching the ball up.
 
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Meridio

Meridio

International Regular
My only concern atm is that when Wagner comes on there'll be a huge pressure release. He really needs to bowl to the same standard that Boult has so far.
 
Howsie

Howsie

International Captain
Would love to be listening to that old **** Boycott right now btw. England were going to rack up 600 on this pitch against this pitiful attack.
 
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
Athlai said:
Boult and Southee are going to be such a gun pair in the future whenever there is swing.
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Should be and one of Bracewell, Wagner, McClenaghan, Henry, Milne, Wheeler will surely be an excellent third seamer at some point.

Southee's rhythm is still an issue. Boult's inconsistency last night and this morning imo just come from attacking, looking for swing and not worrying if there are a few bad balls in there - that's no problem. However Southee just clicks sometimes and other times does the opposite (not clicks? thuds?) and he doesn't seem to know why this happens or doesn't. If he can work that out he'll be an excellent bowler.
 
straw man

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
KiWiNiNjA said:
I can only assume Tucker thought it pitched outside of leg. :wacko:
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It was Reiffel wasn't it? Can't believe a bowler like him didn't just fire the batsman as soon as it got anywhere near the pads :happy:

Edit: Nah it was Tucker - you were right.
 
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Meridio

Meridio

International Regular
Flem274* said:
Need to get rid of ****ing Prior. He's such a good player.
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Agreed. And it's not the time now, but I think deep point to Prior is a good position - don't let him get any boundaries through there. Not yet though, at 74/5...
hendrix said:
New Zealand v England, 3rd Test, Auckland, 2nd day : New Zealand can prey on England's nerves | Cricket Features | New Zealand v England | ESPN Cricinfo
1. Boult is faster than the England bowlers.

2. Maybe it's not the vagaries of the ball. Maybe it's immaculate seam position and pitching the ball up.
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Yeah, completely agree. We've bowled fuller and reaped the rewards.
 
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wpdavid

wpdavid

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hendrix said:
New Zealand v England, 3rd Test, Auckland, 2nd day : New Zealand can prey on England's nerves | Cricket Features | New Zealand v England | ESPN Cricinfo

[QUOTE}when Trent Boult, finding more swing than any of the England bowlers, removed Alastair Cook and Jonathan Trott. Was it his slightly slower pace through the air allowing the ball to move? Maybe it was purely the vagaries of the ball picked out of the box.
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1. Boult is faster than the England bowlers.

2. Maybe it's not the vagaries of the ball. Maybe it's immaculate seam position and pitching the ball up.[/QUOTE]

Well quite. In other words, professional cricketers doing what they are paid to do for a living.

Which is increasingly more than we can expect from this over-rated bunch of amateurs. Apparently 14 months ago it was down to unfamiliar conditions. 8 months ago it was OK because Steyn and co are pretty good. Now what will their excuse be?

And yet another telling contribution from Bell when the pressure was on, I see. He really does need to FRO.
 
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C

CWB304

U19 Cricketer
Zinzan said:
Huge wicket ! First time Southee lands a perfectly consistent over and he strikes.

Couldn't have 3 more better wickets either; Cook, Trott & Bell.
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Some joke, surely? I've always believed that in these situations it's a question of sheer pot luck which of the bowlers Bell ends up donating his wicket to. Merit rarely has anything to do with it. He just gets out....somehow. Still, it's better for England that he's safely back in the hutch. The longer he hangs around the more he convinces his teammates that there are hidden gremlins in the pitch which don't in fact exist. I'd rate him higher if he'd only quit the fidgeting and going nowhere fast, and got a golden duck in each crisis.
 
L Trumper

L Trumper

State Regular
Excellent bowling from both. Once again highlights England ****ness in both bowling and batting. They are mostly getting by Cook, KP, Prior, Jimmy & Swann for the last 18 months. Carrying roughly 6 players tbh. Also special kudos to B Mac. Brilliant captaincy,
 
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