Morgan V Raina

[Prince EWS]

I think you're possibly setting too much stall by domestic FC scores when assessing a player's worth. Morgan is far from alone in not exactly shining in the CC before getting a run in tests.* Vaughan and Trescothick both famously had distinctly ordinary FC records when they graduated to the test XI. Tres is the obvious comparison: gun ODI player, promoted to tests on the strength of this and a temperament that's suited to international cricket.

Morgan has a way to go to establish himself, but I don't think anyone watching the two batsmen could conclude that Raina is far better.

*As an aside, only two of Engaland's current top 7 average more in FC cricket than in tests and one of those only went ahead thanks to his last outing against the current tourists.

I only like to use watching players to form an opinion on potential and to make predictions. In terms of how I rate players in a thread like this, it all comes down to what they've actually done. I'll deal with what they're capable of if and when they actually do it.

 

[Jacknife]

His technique derives from playing hurling when he was younger. He's really very Irish .

He's not the best at dealing with attacking fast bowling so a lot might depend on how much protection he gets from those above him.

I remember a while ago, when the hurling thing kept getting brought up, Morgan himself I believe, came out and said, that it had been completely overplayed as he has played, very little Hurling.

 

[Howe_zat]

Raina averages 44 to Morgan's 38 in first-class cricket. They both have 8 centuries. Considering the higher-scoring nature of Indian cricket, that's barely a discrepancy at all.

 

[Prince EWS]

Raina averages 44 to Morgan's 38 in first-class cricket. They both have 8 centuries. Considering the higher-scoring nature of Indian cricket, that's barely a discrepancy at all.

Morgan's is inflated by games for Ireland though.

Morgan averages just 32 in the County Championship.

 

[Uppercut]

I remember a while ago, when the hurling thing kept getting brought up, Morgan himself I believe, came out and said, that it had been completely overplayed as he has played, very little Hurling.

Ah, fair enough. His sweep shot does look suspiciously familiar. Maybe it's in the blood .

 

[GIMH]

GTFO. Et tu Corrin?

Wouldn't want anyone to think of me as biased. As long as we get a good contest that's all yeah I can't ****ing finish that sentence.

Sorry everyone, just to clear things up, here are the actual best players in each position:

Cook
Strauss
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Morgan
Prior
Broad/Bresnan
Swann
Tremlett
Anderson

Thank you, and good night.

 

[MW1304]

What the hell GIMH!? You have not genuinely thought about team selection or positioning there, and are clearly allowing personal bias and/or recent form to sway your view. Come on! You don't really believe that's what the best players from each position is? Stop being a stupid English fanboy. Now here is how the players actually stack up in a thought-out and considered best XI:

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Bell
Morgan
Prior
Broad/Bresnan
Swann
Tremlett
Anderson

Now think harder about your selection in future.

 

[Burgey]

Morgan.

Going to be lolworthy watching Tremlett bowl to Raina

 

[deerkick]

i feel like this tour will end raina's test career

unfortunately that means yuvraj comes in. either way, advantage england!

 

[slowfinger]

Raina, Looks more temperamentally valuable at the moment, not writing Morgan off though at all.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Raina, Looks more temperamentally valuable at the moment, not writing Morgan off though at all.

Not a chance. Whatever Morgan's flaws, temperament isn't one of them. The man has ice in his blood. Definitely a man who treats Kipling's twin imposters alike.

 

[Bun]

Raina, and it's not even particularly close at this point IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if Morgan had a better series though because England's bowlers are better and, as Uppercut said, he's playing at home.

+1 to cult of PEWS

 

[GIMH]

Both doing great so far

 

[silentstriker]

Haha just wanted to pop into the thread to say this.

 

[Spark]

Raina has a wicket tbf

 

[GIMH]

Yeah but Morgan hasn't had a bowl yet. Just wait, he'll get Harby

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Well I always like a close contest.

 

[oitoitoi]

Well I always like a close contest.

Lol both equally terrible atm, ironically there's an argument for each getting a rouch decision.

 

[Daemon]

Lol both equally terrible atm, ironically there's an argument for each getting a rouch decision.

*coincidentally

 

[Spark]

Lol both equally terrible atm, ironically there's an argument for each getting a rouch decision.

Not really for Raina, looked pretty out