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    Combined Test/ ODI/ T20 figures of the past decade against all minnows including the test playing nations of zim and bang.

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     Top 5 bowlers against minnows 
    
    
    M Muralitharan (SL) 	 	54 	70 	1050.1 	267 	2651 	216 	9/51 	13/115 	12.27 	2.52 	29.1 	17 	5
    Mashrafe Mortaza (Ban) 	48 	51 	535.0 	80 	1937 	97 	6/26 	6/26 	19.96 	3.62 	33.0 	1 	0
    DL Vettori (NZ) 	 	34 	42 	612.1 	170 	1548 	96 	6/28 	12/170 	16.12 	2.52 	38.2 	6 	1
    Z Khan (India) 	 	39 	50 	532.4 	71 	2036 	91 	5/34 	7/88 	22.37 	3.82 	35.1 	1 	0
    WPUJC Vaas (SL) 	 	42 	54 	568.5 	141 	1656 	89 	8/19 	8/19 	18.60 	2.91 	38.3 	2 	0
    
    
    Top 5 batsmen against minnows
    
    
    KC Sangakkara (SL) 	68 	66 	9 	3040 	270 	53.33 	4303 	70.64 	8 	14 	3 	347 	10
    SC Ganguly (India) 	 	52 	55 	8 	2782 	144 	59.19 	4186 	66.45 	9 	17 	2 	247 	59
    CH Gayle (WI) 		55 	60 	11 	2762 	175 	56.36 	3801 	72.66 	8 	16 	6 	362 	38
    Mohammad Yousuf (Pak) 	52 	49 	17 	2692 	204* 	84.12 	3510 	76.69 	9 	14 	2 	281 	31
    SR Tendulkar (India) 	40 	44 	7 	2620 	248* 	70.81 	3791 	69.11 	9 	9 	0 	327 	13
    Murali as bowler and Sanga as batsman must be causing sleepless nights to all these minnows.

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    Collingwood in ODIs.

    His overall average is barely acceptable as it is, remove minnows and it slides down to 30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post

    Really has to be Kallis or Vettori IMO. Murali's really racked up the figures with the ball but Kallis and Vettori have done it with both.

    Kallis - 817 runs @ 136.16; 31 wickets @ 14.06
    Vettori - 512 runs @ 58.44; 58 wickets @ 15.18
    Amazing stats for both (well all three if you include Murali) though at least Kallis and Murali have the excuse of being all time greats who are also magnificent against just about everyone else too, while even Vettori has had a highly distinguished Test career.

    In terms of cashing in above one's weight to the point over statistical hyper-inflation though, Pathan must surely take some beating. His 4 Tests against Zim/Bang have produced an astonishing 39 wickets at 11. His other 25 Tests against everybody else have yielded just 61 wickets at 45.
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    It is only natural that teams who play Bangladesh the most (India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka) will have players with the highest numer of runs against them. It may be worthwhile looking at players who havent played too many tests but scored heavily when they did.

    Against Bangladesh
    • Steve Waugh (2 innings) scores of 100 not out and 156 not out.
    • Lehmann (2 innings) scores of 110 and 177
    • Hussey (3 innings) 242 runs at 80.7


    Against Zimbabwe
    • Steve Waugh (3 inning) 151 not out, 78 and 61.
    • Hayden (3 innings) 501 runs at 250.5



    I have just looked at Australia. I am sure one can find more. From these figures, Steve Waugh is the ultimate murderer of modest bowling.
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    • 156no
    • 151no
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    I'd actually forgotten just how heavily SR Waugh had cashed in on the few occasions he faced those teams. Makes the same kind of sense as Kallis really - a solid, remorseless accumulator of runs who rarely tried anything particularly risky and never gave his wicket away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    I'd actually forgotten just how heavily SR Waugh had cashed in on the few occasions he faced those teams. Makes the same kind of sense as Kallis really - a solid, remorseless accumulator of runs who rarely tried anything particularly risky and never gave his wicket away.
    if you take away the records against the minnows then s.waugh averags a perfectly respectable, but not so great 48 runs per innings.

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    Amongst bowlers. . .

    • MacGill took 33 wickets in four Tests against Bangladesh at 15.7 each !
    • Gillespie 19 at 13.7 !
    • Gillespie against Zombabwe took 5 (in one Test) at 11.6 each !

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    Actually, Kallis isn't a bad shout.

    Since 2000, in 99 Tests, he's scored 8428 runs @58.93, with 26 tons. Exceptional stats there.

    Take out Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, it drops to 89 Tests, 7611 runs @ 55.55, 23 tons. Still extremely good.

    However, in the last 10 years he's also feasted on New Zealand and the West Indies, without doubt the two weakest sides of the top 8.

    With those 2 removed:

    62 Tests, 4843 runs @ 48.91, 13 tons.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with averaging a shade under 49 since the millenium, but what it does show is to the extent that Kallis has feasted on weaker sides.

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    When someone gets the chance I'd be very interested to see the stats of the following batsmen with and without minnows in their record:

    Tendulkar
    Kallis
    Lara
    Inzamam
    S Waugh
    Ponting
    Dravid
    Hayden
    Chanderpaul
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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Actually, Kallis isn't a bad shout.

    Since 2000, in 99 Tests, he's scored 8428 runs @58.93, with 26 tons. Exceptional stats there.

    Take out Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, it drops to 89 Tests, 7611 runs @ 55.55, 23 tons. Still extremely good.

    However, in the last 10 years he's also feasted on New Zealand and the West Indies, without doubt the two weakest sides of the top 8.

    With those 2 removed:

    62 Tests, 4843 runs @ 48.91, 13 tons.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with averaging a shade under 49 since the millenium, but what it does show is to the extent that Kallis has feasted on weaker sides.
    TBH from about 2000 til a few years ago i considered the WI team a minnow myself.

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    I remember Cricinfo doing a stats article on this very issue and Kallis stands out in memory. That was a couple of years back mind.

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    This feasting against minnows is a strange thing in cricketing terms, so often its a case of damned if you do, and damned if you dont.

    That said, I am a little perturbed to see so many of the SL batting order in that list of 'feasting' batsmen against Zim and Bang.

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    Well Sri Lanka do seem to play Bangladesh quite often.

    Anyway agree with it being Kallis or Vettori.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBH001 View Post
    This feasting against minnows is a strange thing in cricketing terms, so often its a case of damned if you do, and damned if you dont.

    That said, I am a little perturbed to see so many of the SL batting order in that list of 'feasting' batsmen against Zim and Bang.

    I usually damn players if they bash minnows but tend to go missing agaisnt the better teams (esp the very best) Thats y for example among the great WI bastmen Walcott and Weekes will always be a rung below Lara, Viv and Sobers for me. They did well against the lower teams (India at the time) and performed poorly against the better sides (Aust. and Eng) particularly in away tests. BTW please note that i never called India a minnow.

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