ICC agrees to change Oval forfeiture to a draw

silentstriker · 02-07-2008, 06:34 AM

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci-i...ry/359329.html

I disagree with this. If you are going to make a principled stand, you have to deal with the consequences. If you refuse to come out to play, forfeiture is the only route that can be taken. This is independent of whether Hair is wrong, or right, or whether what Pakistan did was wrong or right. If you don't come out to play for any reason, you lose the game, even if what you did was for the proper reasons.

Scaly piscine · 02-07-2008, 06:38 AM

So the ICC caves in to pressure wrongly and their excuse is based on a decision where they also caved in wrongly and we'll probably never hear what actually happened.

Prince EWS · 02-07-2008, 06:40 AM

Ridiculous decision.

Regardless of whether Pakistan tampered with the ball or not, they most certainly forfeited the match.

Jono · 02-07-2008, 06:57 AM

Yeah **** decision.

Richard · 02-07-2008, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

I disagree with this. If you are going to make a principled stand, you have to deal with the consequences. If you refuse to come out to play, forfeiture is the only route that can be taken. This is independent of whether Hair is wrong, or right, or whether what Pakistan did was wrong or right. If you don't come out to play for any reason, you lose the game, even if what you did was for the proper reasons.

Ind33d.

About the only good to come of this is that a ridiculous result will be more accurately reflected, and it will remain the case that there's never been a Test won by forfeit. But the danger is that not coming out to play will now be "OK"d.

Perm · 02-07-2008, 07:01 AM

Pretty pathetic decision, what exactly does it acheive? A forfeit was and is a fair reflection of what happened - Pakistan refused to play.

SJS · 02-07-2008, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci-i...ry/359329.html

I disagree with this. If you are going to make a principled stand, you have to deal with the consequences. If you refuse to come out to play, forfeiture is the only route that can be taken. This is independent of whether Hair is wrong, or right, or whether what Pakistan did was wrong or right. If you don't come out to play for any reason, you lose the game, even if what you did was for the proper reasons.

ICC has taken many poor decisions in the past but there cant be many as pathetic, ridiculous and completely pointless as this one.

Why ???????

four_or_six · 02-07-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SJS

ICC has taken many poor decisions in the past but there cant be many as pathetic, ridiculous and completely pointless as this one.

Why ???????

Part of the bargaining over Zim?

TT Boy · 02-07-2008, 07:16 AM

You would think the PCB have more pressing matters to attend to then ‘lobbying’ the ICC to change a result of a game which in the grand scheme of it all means nothing.

Richard · 02-07-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by four_or_six

Part of the bargaining over Zim?

I doubt it - the ECB were as in favour of the change of result as the PCB were.

NUFAN · 02-07-2008, 07:25 AM

Absurd.

If the series was on the line I doubt they would have come to this decision.

open365 · 02-07-2008, 07:30 AM

Does this mean Asian teams can just pull out of matches against Enland whenever they are losing from now on?

The ICC is a joke, this decision doesn't really matter at all, but i find it totaly incomprehensible that anybody- even someone incompetent enough to work for the ICC- could possibly think this is the right decision.

four_or_six · 02-07-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

I doubt it - the ECB were as in favour of the change of result as the PCB were.

Exactly.

Dasa · 02-07-2008, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by open365

Does this mean Asian teams can just pull out of matches against Enland whenever they are losing from now on?

Goughy · 02-07-2008, 07:56 AM

Farce

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open365 International Vice-Captain Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: liverpool Posts: 4,066	Does this mean Asian teams can just pull out of matches against Enland whenever they are losing from now on? The ICC is a joke, this decision doesn't really matter at all, but i find it totaly incomprehensible that anybody- even someone incompetent enough to work for the ICC- could possibly think this is the right decision.

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