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    NZ's squad

    No - not announced yet.

    Here is the latest on injury news


    Cricket: Mostly familiar faces likely in squads to England | Otago Daily Times Online News : Otago, South Island, New Zealand & International News

    If Mitch recovers then our bowling will be decent

    Mitch
    Mills
    Someone
    Nmac
    Vettori (if he does well on his return)
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    Somehow i doubt both Vettori and NMac would be selected in the same attack, with Williamson turning into a very handy bowling option its just too much spin.

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    NMacs figures from the England series

    10 0/42
    10 0/46
    7 0/39
    economy rate = 4.7

    Kane's

    2.2 0/12
    8 1/39
    1 0/9

    economy = 5.29

    So Nmac had better figures (even though Kane got a wicket) and I don't think you should factor Kane's recent test match into account.

    here's what a team would like with all three

    Watling
    Guppers
    Kane
    RT
    Elliot
    Baz
    Dan
    Nmac
    Mills
    Southee
    Mitch

    Those three seamers are probably bankers to get through 30 and then just 20 overs split between two front line spinners and one part time spinner.

    If one seamer did get injured part way through and you had to have 25 overs of spin I don't think it would be a disaster as i reckon NMac could bowl between the 40th and 45th over and do ok as he travels ok in T20 matches.

    Finally if we replaced NMac it would be with Butler and I reckon NMacs bowling will go for less (and this ignores that NMac is the better bat of the two).

    I am not sold on this idea by any stretch and Dan could turn out to be crap on his comeback as well.

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    Imo the question is whether the benefit of sharing 10 overs between the batting allrounders (Kane, Franklin, Elliot) and strengthening the batting is a better option, than going for a bowling allrounder.
    Its pretty 50/50 because it means we might concede 10-20 runs more, and the improved batting, would only add a similar amount, but it means that if say KP takes a liking to our spinners on unhelpful pitches, we won't have to scramble for options.

    Im guessing here, but i think Henry has probably jumped Butler in the pecking order and Henry > NMac. Sure he might not even get included in the squad, but surely the selectors cannot ignore results like he has had when he looks so good doing it. It's probably too soon before the champions trophy to integrate him into the side, but Butler isn't exactly established.
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    So we have the squad. Quite like it actually.

    ODI and ICC Champions Trophy squad:
    Brendon McCullum (c)
    Trent Boult
    Grant Elliott
    Andrew Ellis
    James Franklin
    Martin Guptill
    Mitchell McClenaghan
    Nathan McCullum
    Kyle Mills
    Colin Munro
    Luke Ronchi
    Tim Southee
    Ross Taylor
    Daniel Vettori
    Kane Williamson

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    As noted elsewhere, the lack of Watling is curious.

    Guptill, Ronchi, Williamson, Taylor, Elliot, McCullum, Franklin, Vettori, Mills, Southee, McC
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    I also thought we might get a Papps sighting.

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    my line-up from the squad if I had my way:

    McCullum (c)
    Guptill
    Williamson
    Taylor
    Elliot
    Ronchi (wk)
    Vettori
    Mills
    Southee
    Boult
    McGleneghan


    Would actually want 7 batsmen (i.e. Watling) but we haven't picked anyone else that I'd want to have in the team. Maybe Franklin.

    Definitely not Ellis or Munro.

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    Replace Boult with Watling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA View Post
    Replace Boult with Watling.
    yeah that would be an option if he was in the squad. Very harshly dropped IMO.

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    Ellis is out
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    The cricinfo comments about his injury are pretty brutal but accurate.

    No big loss
    We are better off without him
    Good now someone else can play

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    Yeah it's a shame for him that he's injured but it's actually a positive for New Zealand IMO as long as they don't decide to replace him with Wagner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah it's a shame for him that he's injured but it's actually a positive for New Zealand IMO as long as they don't decide to replace him with Wagner.
    Bracewell is the replacement.

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